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The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. I don't kn

The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. I don't know about "uniquely dangerous", but if a firearm can shoot more bullets faster it clearly has the potential to be more dangerous and cause more injury and loss of life than other firearms. Even the people who want to die on the hill of being pedantic about the term "assault weapon" have to admit that.

RiceRichardJ 2y ago
Will not have to admit. The term has nothing to do with rate of fire. Normally purchased weapons, assault or not, are semi automatic. Rate of fire only applies to automatic weapons.
- highcountess 2y ago
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- ganoushoreilly 2y ago
  Right, even then the rate of fire is only relevant as to say it was a single pull for multiple projectiles vs a pull for each round. If you have the money to pay the $200 tax stamp, undergo the background check, and can find a pre 1986 minigun, you can shoot upwards of 6k rpm. Some states may have prohibitions on it, but again, those are being contested in courts and I suspect post BRUEN they're not going to hold up to muster.
- standardUser 2y ago
  A semi-automatic firearm has a significantly higher rate of fire compared to a single-shot firearm.
highcountess 2y ago
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jack_h 2y ago
> The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. This is incorrect. An "assault weapon" is semi-automatic and it has no intrinsic rate of fire. The National Firearms Act of 1934 already regulates automatic firearms at the federal level. The definition of an assault weapon varies by state, but usually comes down to cosmetic and minor features such as a pistol grip, a shrouded barrel, a folding stock, a threaded barrel, etc...
- standardUser 2y ago
  > The definition of an assault weapon varies by state Yet you define it concretely in your first line, and immediately contradict that statement in your second like. You seem more focused on arguing than being logical.
wl 2y ago
> The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. To be blunt, you've been lied to about this. No assault weapons ban has ever distinguished firearms based off of their rate of fire. The magazines banned are often are those typically used for self-defense and sport.
- standardUser 2y ago
  A semi-automatic firearm has a significantly higher rate of fire compared to a single-shot firearm. That's just a fucking fact buddy. Maybe not for every firearm every made, but broadly speaking.
  - wl 2y ago
    It takes more than being semiautomatic for a firearm to be banned under the assault weapon bans we saw at the federal level and currently have in states like California and New York. In addition to being semiautomatic and having a detachable magazine/fixed magazine of a certain capacity, it needs to have some combination of banned cosmetic or ergonomic features like a pistol grip, an adjustable or foldable stock, or a flash hider. After assault weapon bans, most of the market goes to "featureless" firearms that are still semiautomatic but lack enough banned features to remain legal.
ganoushoreilly 2y ago
It's a made up term. Law has delineated that how fast a user can pull the trigger is irrelevant. The difference is semi-automatic rate of fire or full auto rate of fire. One requires the trigger to reset before each shot fired (Semi) and one has a trigger that mechanically allows multiple rounds to expel from the weapon with one pull. It's cut and dry. The NFA act of 1934 (which many believe is unconstitutional and should be overturned post BRUEN), was the only law written to establish this rule. The 1986 FOPA was written to stop the sale of post 86 machine guns from MFG and Sale (prior weapons are still legally able to be sold). Again modern claims of assault weapon are used to conjure up an image rather than provide any factual definition in line with the above comment. At the end of the day there is nothing for "people who want to die on the hill of being pedantic" have to admit. The laws are clear, emotionally charged words have no bearing and are being used to muddy discussions around a clearly defined set of laws.

RiceRichardJ 2y ago

Will not have to admit. The term has nothing to do with rate of fire. Normally purchased weapons, assault or not, are semi automatic. Rate of fire only applies to automatic weapons.

highcountess 2y ago
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ganoushoreilly 2y ago
Right, even then the rate of fire is only relevant as to say it was a single pull for multiple projectiles vs a pull for each round. If you have the money to pay the $200 tax stamp, undergo the background check, and can find a pre 1986 minigun, you can shoot upwards of 6k rpm. Some states may have prohibitions on it, but again, those are being contested in courts and I suspect post BRUEN they're not going to hold up to muster.
standardUser 2y ago
A semi-automatic firearm has a significantly higher rate of fire compared to a single-shot firearm.

highcountess 2y ago

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jack_h 2y ago

> The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. This is incorrect. An "assault weapon" is semi-automatic and it has no intrinsic rate of fire. The National Firearms Act of 1934 already regulates automatic firearms at the federal level. The definition of an assault weapon varies by state, but usually comes down to cosmetic and minor features such as a pistol grip, a shrouded barrel, a folding stock, a threaded barrel, etc...

standardUser 2y ago
> The definition of an assault weapon varies by state Yet you define it concretely in your first line, and immediately contradict that statement in your second like. You seem more focused on arguing than being logical.

wl 2y ago

> The term "assault weapon" usually indicates larger magazines and higher rate of fire than firearms that are typically used for self defense or sport. To be blunt, you've been lied to about this. No assault weapons ban has ever distinguished firearms based off of their rate of fire. The magazines banned are often are those typically used for self-defense and sport.

standardUser 2y ago
A semi-automatic firearm has a significantly higher rate of fire compared to a single-shot firearm. That's just a fucking fact buddy. Maybe not for every firearm every made, but broadly speaking.
- wl 2y ago
  It takes more than being semiautomatic for a firearm to be banned under the assault weapon bans we saw at the federal level and currently have in states like California and New York. In addition to being semiautomatic and having a detachable magazine/fixed magazine of a certain capacity, it needs to have some combination of banned cosmetic or ergonomic features like a pistol grip, an adjustable or foldable stock, or a flash hider. After assault weapon bans, most of the market goes to "featureless" firearms that are still semiautomatic but lack enough banned features to remain legal.

ganoushoreilly 2y ago

It's a made up term. Law has delineated that how fast a user can pull the trigger is irrelevant. The difference is semi-automatic rate of fire or full auto rate of fire. One requires the trigger to reset before each shot fired (Semi) and one has a trigger that mechanically allows multiple rounds to expel from the weapon with one pull. It's cut and dry. The NFA act of 1934 (which many believe is unconstitutional and should be overturned post BRUEN), was the only law written to establish this rule. The 1986 FOPA was written to stop the sale of post 86 machine guns from MFG and Sale (prior weapons are still legally able to be sold). Again modern claims of assault weapon are used to conjure up an image rather than provide any factual definition in line with the above comment. At the end of the day there is nothing for "people who want to die on the hill of being pedantic" have to admit. The laws are clear, emotionally charged words have no bearing and are being used to muddy discussions around a clearly defined set of laws.