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Which service do you recommend as alternative?

by loloquwowndueo 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
FastMail, Dropbox, Apple iCloud (Photos, Keychain, etc)
- pluc 2y ago
  +1 for fastmail, it has built-in backup mechanisms.
- FagNigKiller 2y ago
  [flagged]
- politelemon 2y ago
  Would definitely not recommend ecosystems. They can and do lock you out and you have more to lose.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    I’m able to get ahold of a human for support with all products I mentioned. I’m unable to get ahold of a human at Google ever for any of their consumer offerings. I see lots of HN threads begging for Google support, I see no HN threads begging for support from any of the companies I listed. You should always have backups, regardless of provider.
a5c11 2y ago
I am very happy with Apple and iCloud, seriously. I've got plenty of cloud space for a fair price, it integrates seamlessly with Apple devices, ships with a password manager, you can hide your mail addresses, and other goodies. I've never had a problem with it.
- n2d4 2y ago
  There are similar stories with Apple: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625875
  - eminent101 2y ago
    Do you or someone else know if Fastmail is any better? If I buy a Fastmail email, what protections exist that would stop them from accidentally or arbitrarily locking me out? And note, I don't live in the US. I'm wondering about this question from a global perspective.
    - yencabulator 2y ago
      1. Use your own domain, to have a migration path out when needed. 2. Use JMAP/IMAP or https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060590573-Download-all-your-data https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060590573-Dow... and keep a copy of all your mail locally.
- jeffbee 2y ago
  Last time I went to France, Apple locked my iCloud for the duration until I could get back and login from a USA IP address. They even cancelled my Apple Card. And France is not exactly a suspicious destination, and I go there 4 times every year. I don't think Apple account abuse systems work better than Google's.
littlecranky67 2y ago
Proton.
- xlaacid 2y ago
  100 percent use proton!
andyjohnson0 2y ago
Fastmail. But you have to pay.
- loloquwowndueo 2y ago
  Paying is fine. Makes me the customer, not the product. Was just wondering which alternatives were worth considering :) thanks
eonmist 2y ago
postale.io Requires your own domain.

Which service do you recommend as alternative?

toomuchtodo 2y ago

FastMail, Dropbox, Apple iCloud (Photos, Keychain, etc)

pluc 2y ago
+1 for fastmail, it has built-in backup mechanisms.
FagNigKiller 2y ago
[flagged]
politelemon 2y ago
Would definitely not recommend ecosystems. They can and do lock you out and you have more to lose.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  I’m able to get ahold of a human for support with all products I mentioned. I’m unable to get ahold of a human at Google ever for any of their consumer offerings. I see lots of HN threads begging for Google support, I see no HN threads begging for support from any of the companies I listed. You should always have backups, regardless of provider.

a5c11 2y ago

I am very happy with Apple and iCloud, seriously. I've got plenty of cloud space for a fair price, it integrates seamlessly with Apple devices, ships with a password manager, you can hide your mail addresses, and other goodies. I've never had a problem with it.

n2d4 2y ago
There are similar stories with Apple: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38625875
- eminent101 2y ago
  Do you or someone else know if Fastmail is any better? If I buy a Fastmail email, what protections exist that would stop them from accidentally or arbitrarily locking me out? And note, I don't live in the US. I'm wondering about this question from a global perspective.
  - yencabulator 2y ago
    1. Use your own domain, to have a migration path out when needed. 2. Use JMAP/IMAP or https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060590573-Download-all-your-data https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060590573-Dow... and keep a copy of all your mail locally.
jeffbee 2y ago
Last time I went to France, Apple locked my iCloud for the duration until I could get back and login from a USA IP address. They even cancelled my Apple Card. And France is not exactly a suspicious destination, and I go there 4 times every year. I don't think Apple account abuse systems work better than Google's.

littlecranky67 2y ago

Proton.

xlaacid 2y ago
100 percent use proton!

andyjohnson0 2y ago

Fastmail. But you have to pay.

loloquwowndueo 2y ago
Paying is fine. Makes me the customer, not the product. Was just wondering which alternatives were worth considering :) thanks

eonmist 2y ago

postale.io Requires your own domain.