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> Or should we just ban all air travel? Yes, we should. Do you have children?

rad_gruchalski 2y ago
There we go, “think of the children”. How many do you have? How much co2 is it going to take for you to raise them until they can be used as a reliable workforce? Hopefully they don’t go sideways before… Oh boy, have I got news for you. The best thing you can do to save the planet is not to have children. I’m pretty sure that my co2 footprint is going to be lower without children than yours with your children.
- FollowingTheDao 2y ago
  I do not have children, for this very reason. But anyone with children shoudl be concerned for their future.
lurking_swe 2y ago
Do you understand that this is an extreme view? It’s a valid one…but extreme. I’m not sure how air travel would even be banned practically speaking. Would your country ban it, or a global ban? I doubt all countries would agree to that. If your country bans air travel, I suspect many people would just leave your country to move to one that permits air travel, for a better quality of life. A ban only works if it’s banned globally. Also, banning air travel means none of this is possible: • professional sports (teams can’t travel) • olympics • flying for funerals, honeymoons, or for a better life (war refugees) • MUCH slower package and mail delivery across the globe • is medical travel allowed? Not all areas in the world have good specialists or can do all procedures. • scientific research in the wild • leisure travel for vacation, spending time with family, etc I could go on. You personally may not care about any of that, but many people DO. I don’t have children but I plan to someday. Yes each future generation will likely suffer more from climate change, we are on a bad trajectory. But guess what? Life itself is literally suffering. From birth until death. People may need to migrate to new regions that are less affected by climate change. That’s life…suffering. And the climate change train left the station a looooooooooong time ago after the industrial revolution and population explosion globally. Future generations would be better served by humanity being more aggressive with switching to renewable energy instead of trying to ruin fun for everyone alive today. just my opinions. clearly we disagree here. Hope you have a nice day and thanks for reading lol. :)

There we go, “think of the children”. How many do you have? How much co2 is it going to take for you to raise them until they can be used as a reliable workforce? Hopefully they don’t go sideways before… Oh boy, have I got news for you. The best thing you can do to save the planet is not to have children. I’m pretty sure that my co2 footprint is going to be lower without children than yours with your children.

FollowingTheDao 2y ago
I do not have children, for this very reason. But anyone with children shoudl be concerned for their future.

lurking_swe 2y ago

Do you understand that this is an extreme view? It’s a valid one…but extreme. I’m not sure how air travel would even be banned practically speaking. Would your country ban it, or a global ban? I doubt all countries would agree to that. If your country bans air travel, I suspect many people would just leave your country to move to one that permits air travel, for a better quality of life. A ban only works if it’s banned globally. Also, banning air travel means none of this is possible: • professional sports (teams can’t travel) • olympics • flying for funerals, honeymoons, or for a better life (war refugees) • MUCH slower package and mail delivery across the globe • is medical travel allowed? Not all areas in the world have good specialists or can do all procedures. • scientific research in the wild • leisure travel for vacation, spending time with family, etc I could go on. You personally may not care about any of that, but many people DO. I don’t have children but I plan to someday. Yes each future generation will likely suffer more from climate change, we are on a bad trajectory. But guess what? Life itself is literally suffering. From birth until death. People may need to migrate to new regions that are less affected by climate change. That’s life…suffering. And the climate change train left the station a looooooooooong time ago after the industrial revolution and population explosion globally. Future generations would be better served by humanity being more aggressive with switching to renewable energy instead of trying to ruin fun for everyone alive today. just my opinions. clearly we disagree here. Hope you have a nice day and thanks for reading lol. :)