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The Silicon Valley Billionaires Steering Trump's Transition

7 points by disposition2 2y ago

nabla9 2y ago
What unites voters from left to right is the influence of money in politics and corruption. So they voted for a billionaire, who has billionaires in preparing the government and at least 11 picks for strategic positions after who are billionaires themselves, have billionaire spouses or are within touching distance of that threshold.
- bediger4000 2y ago
  Doesn't this construction indicate that your premise is false? That is, the influence of money in politics and corruption is not the underlying force that led to Trump's electoral and popular vote win?
  - nabla9 2y ago
    Polls show that year after year influence of money in politics and corruption is one of the causes that unite people. Ignorance, emotion, identity politics, and good showmanship are more than enough to explain voter irrationality.
    - bediger4000 2y ago
      I fill out as many polls as I can. I lie on them. Polling no longer yields accurate information.
      - cherry_tree 2y ago
        Why?
        bediger4000 2y ago
        Good question. I find many, if not most, polls to be constructed in bad faith, designed to get the answers they want, or at least to avoid answers they don't want. The other proportion of polls is poorly constructed, full of assumptions about those polled, or what answers are even possible. Polls also reduce the nuance of situations vastly. I'm frustrated by polls, in short.
      - zen928 2y ago
        You're not wrong that intentional bad actors can spoil institutions, I don't see the institution as the problem there though
  - ttyprintk 2y ago
    From older voters, what I’ve heard is: I thought this Elon Musk guy was just someone from the Internet happy to be on stage with Trump. I didn’t know he was the richest man in the World and I should have been told he would be leading parts of the government which decide austerity. Some, but not all, of those voters also feared what Trump would do if he lost to a black woman prosecutor. Being powerful means being a billionaire, and to Trump’s base the election was about power.
disposition2 2y ago
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7 points by disposition2 2y ago

What unites voters from left to right is the influence of money in politics and corruption. So they voted for a billionaire, who has billionaires in preparing the government and at least 11 picks for strategic positions after who are billionaires themselves, have billionaire spouses or are within touching distance of that threshold.

bediger4000 2y ago
Doesn't this construction indicate that your premise is false? That is, the influence of money in politics and corruption is not the underlying force that led to Trump's electoral and popular vote win?
- nabla9 2y ago
  Polls show that year after year influence of money in politics and corruption is one of the causes that unite people. Ignorance, emotion, identity politics, and good showmanship are more than enough to explain voter irrationality.
  - bediger4000 2y ago
    I fill out as many polls as I can. I lie on them. Polling no longer yields accurate information.
    - cherry_tree 2y ago
      Why?
      - bediger4000 2y ago
        Good question. I find many, if not most, polls to be constructed in bad faith, designed to get the answers they want, or at least to avoid answers they don't want. The other proportion of polls is poorly constructed, full of assumptions about those polled, or what answers are even possible. Polls also reduce the nuance of situations vastly. I'm frustrated by polls, in short.
    - zen928 2y ago
      You're not wrong that intentional bad actors can spoil institutions, I don't see the institution as the problem there though
- ttyprintk 2y ago
  From older voters, what I’ve heard is: I thought this Elon Musk guy was just someone from the Internet happy to be on stage with Trump. I didn’t know he was the richest man in the World and I should have been told he would be leading parts of the government which decide austerity. Some, but not all, of those voters also feared what Trump would do if he lost to a black woman prosecutor. Being powerful means being a billionaire, and to Trump’s base the election was about power.

disposition2 2y ago

https://archive.ph/7NBfq https://archive.ph/7NBfq