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Sorry, but then what - money will just be magically waiting for you when you’re ready to come home? Having spent every penny to your name? God it must be nice

Sorry, but then what - money will just be magically waiting for you when you’re ready to come home? Having spent every penny to your name? God it must be nice to be in a position where you can afford to just be like “ok my partner and I are just going to travel for four years, and after that, idk, things will work out somehow.”

StressedDev 2y ago
Some people don't mind living paycheck to paycheck. It has a downside but if it works for someone, I don't think judging it really helps.
- thfuran 2y ago
  I suspect there's very little overlap between that group and people who have $80k sitting around.
- fragmede 2y ago
  if someone is making poor life choices, they're going to be judged poorly for it. if those "poor" decisions aren't actually bad and are just outdated social attitudes, like judging gay people poorly because of the gender of who they love, then it's entirely right to question it. being gay isn't a choice so judging someone for that isn't right because they're consenting adults. However, living beyond your means and buying luxuries you can't actually afford, and living a lavish lifestyle is entirely a personal decision. the problem with living paycheck to paycheck is that life happens. you get into an accident. there's a fire. your dog gets hurt. you get laid off, through no fault of your own. the company just decided to downsize. and now, because you don't have any savings, you can't absorb that loss, and then you're out on the street. homeless. hopefully not literally, there's a grace period before you're kicked out. but food and shelter aren't as solid as they were before. your life could become very difficult. all that hardship was an avoidable problem with an emergency fund because you weren't able to not doordash dinner.
ornornor 2y ago
Same as it would be nice to win the lottery. Not everyone is so lucky and others will be jealous they can’t do it too.
wingworks 2y ago
I did this. Was in a dead end job, left the job, traveled for a year, rented somewhere for 6 months, then out of money, moved in with parents... still here. Job opportunities where my parents live aren't great. At the time the job was so boring, going nowhere, pretty easy.. I would do anything to go back in time to that role tbh.. I loved every second of traveling, and met some cool people, but none of that helps me find work now. If you're a shy introvert, and struggle with social situations.. and you currently have a job, I'd advise to keep the job, even if it's not great, and try get something else lined up before leaving. I have so many mental issues now (low self esteem etc)... therapy would probably help, but now I have no money sooo... I'm stuck in a loop of unemployable, no help due to no money, no money due to no work etc. .. don't be me
- em-bee 2y ago
  traveling alone doesn't help you find jobs, because you meet other travelers and random locals, but it doesn't help you build a network even if you are not shy introvert. my strategy was to look for jobs in the places i wanted to go to or take remote job offers and then visit or move to the places of my employer. that is what allowed me to spend a year in new zealand for example. that's where i learned that new zealand is not a good job market. that's why i left again. i only got there because pike programmers like me were not easy to find. what are your options now? are you looking for remote jobs? why do you think you are unemployable? can you use your time to improve your skills? feel free to reach out in private if you like to chat. email is in my profile
  - wingworks 2y ago
    Yeaaah, I grew up and live in New Zealand.. yeah tech job market isn't so hot here. I'll give you an email later. Thanks!

StressedDev 2y ago

Some people don't mind living paycheck to paycheck. It has a downside but if it works for someone, I don't think judging it really helps.

thfuran 2y ago
I suspect there's very little overlap between that group and people who have $80k sitting around.
fragmede 2y ago
if someone is making poor life choices, they're going to be judged poorly for it. if those "poor" decisions aren't actually bad and are just outdated social attitudes, like judging gay people poorly because of the gender of who they love, then it's entirely right to question it. being gay isn't a choice so judging someone for that isn't right because they're consenting adults. However, living beyond your means and buying luxuries you can't actually afford, and living a lavish lifestyle is entirely a personal decision. the problem with living paycheck to paycheck is that life happens. you get into an accident. there's a fire. your dog gets hurt. you get laid off, through no fault of your own. the company just decided to downsize. and now, because you don't have any savings, you can't absorb that loss, and then you're out on the street. homeless. hopefully not literally, there's a grace period before you're kicked out. but food and shelter aren't as solid as they were before. your life could become very difficult. all that hardship was an avoidable problem with an emergency fund because you weren't able to not doordash dinner.

ornornor 2y ago

Same as it would be nice to win the lottery. Not everyone is so lucky and others will be jealous they can’t do it too.

wingworks 2y ago

I did this. Was in a dead end job, left the job, traveled for a year, rented somewhere for 6 months, then out of money, moved in with parents... still here. Job opportunities where my parents live aren't great. At the time the job was so boring, going nowhere, pretty easy.. I would do anything to go back in time to that role tbh.. I loved every second of traveling, and met some cool people, but none of that helps me find work now. If you're a shy introvert, and struggle with social situations.. and you currently have a job, I'd advise to keep the job, even if it's not great, and try get something else lined up before leaving. I have so many mental issues now (low self esteem etc)... therapy would probably help, but now I have no money sooo... I'm stuck in a loop of unemployable, no help due to no money, no money due to no work etc. .. don't be me

em-bee 2y ago
traveling alone doesn't help you find jobs, because you meet other travelers and random locals, but it doesn't help you build a network even if you are not shy introvert. my strategy was to look for jobs in the places i wanted to go to or take remote job offers and then visit or move to the places of my employer. that is what allowed me to spend a year in new zealand for example. that's where i learned that new zealand is not a good job market. that's why i left again. i only got there because pike programmers like me were not easy to find. what are your options now? are you looking for remote jobs? why do you think you are unemployable? can you use your time to improve your skills? feel free to reach out in private if you like to chat. email is in my profile
- wingworks 2y ago
  Yeaaah, I grew up and live in New Zealand.. yeah tech job market isn't so hot here. I'll give you an email later. Thanks!