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But most Americans didn't want Hamas to rule Palestine ever from the beginning. It's not as if they went mask off last year only. The entire root of the conflic

by aprilthird2021 2y ago

But most Americans didn't want Hamas to rule Palestine ever from the beginning. It's not as if they went mask off last year only. The entire root of the conflict is that all of Palestine basically is not sovereign. Us deciding who rules Palestine just makes that issue worse.

jncfhnb 2y ago
And yet 93% of Hamas’ funding comes from Iran. I don’t believe we should determine who rules Palestine. But I also don’t believe we should allow a hostile state to just bankroll effective seizure of Palestine and the military intimidation of Israel. It’s frankly insanity to tell Israel to be chill while a hostile nation, which is posturing a potential nuclear attack, is actively funding a large and growing base of terrorist operations next door. Palestine is a proxy battleground of many foreign actors. Reducing it to a conflict that is just Israel vs. Palestine is bullshit
- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  So, if we don't determine who rules Palestine, how do we remove the currently in power party and also any future parties if they happen to be insufficiently homegrown to our standards (the funding aspect)? The entire conflict is that Israel believes their safety necessitates that Palestine not be sovereign because they believe a sovereign Palestine will try to take back the land it lost whether in Israel itself or the various illegal encroachments over the years. Palestine on the other hand is not going to accept Israeli sovereignty over it. And thus the conflict. However many or few foreign actors are involved doesn't change the root of the conflict.
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    They believe that because Iran is in fact funding military conflict. It is messy geopolitics. There are dire consequences to sitting back and doing nothing. It’s a prisoners dilemma with large moral negative externalities to playing.

jncfhnb 2y ago

And yet 93% of Hamas’ funding comes from Iran. I don’t believe we should determine who rules Palestine. But I also don’t believe we should allow a hostile state to just bankroll effective seizure of Palestine and the military intimidation of Israel. It’s frankly insanity to tell Israel to be chill while a hostile nation, which is posturing a potential nuclear attack, is actively funding a large and growing base of terrorist operations next door. Palestine is a proxy battleground of many foreign actors. Reducing it to a conflict that is just Israel vs. Palestine is bullshit

aprilthird2021 2y ago
So, if we don't determine who rules Palestine, how do we remove the currently in power party and also any future parties if they happen to be insufficiently homegrown to our standards (the funding aspect)? The entire conflict is that Israel believes their safety necessitates that Palestine not be sovereign because they believe a sovereign Palestine will try to take back the land it lost whether in Israel itself or the various illegal encroachments over the years. Palestine on the other hand is not going to accept Israeli sovereignty over it. And thus the conflict. However many or few foreign actors are involved doesn't change the root of the conflict.
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  They believe that because Iran is in fact funding military conflict. It is messy geopolitics. There are dire consequences to sitting back and doing nothing. It’s a prisoners dilemma with large moral negative externalities to playing.