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I was unemployed for a year at a point and honestly it was the best year of my life in a long time. Yes I went through about $50K but I was able to pursue hobbi

I was unemployed for a year at a point and honestly it was the best year of my life in a long time. Yes I went through about $50K but I was able to pursue hobbies, play sports, weightlift, hike, travel, write, play music, spend a lot of time with my wife and daughter and I built an entire second home on my property (all by myself)! That’s honestly how life is meant to be lived but it’s too bad we’re not at UBI levels in society yet.

dingnuts 2y ago
Yes, that sounds very nice and you are very privileged and lucky. Leisure is definitely a lot nicer than work, but there's a lot of work someone has to do. You can choose to pay people to work, or not, but if you pay people to not work you have to figure out some other incentive for workers or the necessary work won't get done at all. I do prefer living in industrialized society to subsistence farming and slavery, personally, so maybe let's try to keep the incentives in place and NOT copy the Soviets, yeah? And implying that there's a way we're "meant" to live implies we were created by a conscious being with intent, and I think you'll find that's a controversial view
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  I get it, to have a functioning society we need people to work. There is some paradigm in the future where a lot of the labor can be automated, we’re just not there yet.
- dinkumthinkum 2y ago
  A controversial view is a view that has been held by a majority of humans that have lived in the last few thousand years? Ok, I guess that checks out.
kbutler 2y ago
I appreciate that you used that time to build that second home. Any estimate on the value creation from building that home vs the $50k consumed?
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  It’s a full fledged home with 2 bedrooms. I spent ~$75k on materials (outside of the $50k I spent on living expenses). It probably added atleast $100k of value if not more.
  - kbutler 2y ago
    Sounds like time well-spent (with all the other activities as well).
    - dyauspitr 2y ago
      Thank you, I appreciate it. I thought so too.
billy99k 2y ago
"That’s honestly how life is meant to be lived but it’s too bad we’re not at UBI levels in society yet" This sounds great. My question is why should I have to work and pay for you to do what you want all day?
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  With UBI you would receive it too. I presume the person that pays the cost is large industrialists with automated factories with billions in profits.

dingnuts 2y ago

Yes, that sounds very nice and you are very privileged and lucky. Leisure is definitely a lot nicer than work, but there's a lot of work someone has to do. You can choose to pay people to work, or not, but if you pay people to not work you have to figure out some other incentive for workers or the necessary work won't get done at all. I do prefer living in industrialized society to subsistence farming and slavery, personally, so maybe let's try to keep the incentives in place and NOT copy the Soviets, yeah? And implying that there's a way we're "meant" to live implies we were created by a conscious being with intent, and I think you'll find that's a controversial view

dyauspitr 2y ago
I get it, to have a functioning society we need people to work. There is some paradigm in the future where a lot of the labor can be automated, we’re just not there yet.
dinkumthinkum 2y ago
A controversial view is a view that has been held by a majority of humans that have lived in the last few thousand years? Ok, I guess that checks out.

kbutler 2y ago

I appreciate that you used that time to build that second home. Any estimate on the value creation from building that home vs the $50k consumed?

dyauspitr 2y ago
It’s a full fledged home with 2 bedrooms. I spent ~$75k on materials (outside of the $50k I spent on living expenses). It probably added atleast $100k of value if not more.
- kbutler 2y ago
  Sounds like time well-spent (with all the other activities as well).
  - dyauspitr 2y ago
    Thank you, I appreciate it. I thought so too.

billy99k 2y ago

"That’s honestly how life is meant to be lived but it’s too bad we’re not at UBI levels in society yet" This sounds great. My question is why should I have to work and pay for you to do what you want all day?

dyauspitr 2y ago
With UBI you would receive it too. I presume the person that pays the cost is large industrialists with automated factories with billions in profits.