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The Taliban very openly offered Osama up, provided he'd be granted transit to a 3rd-party nation where he'd get a free trial.

triceratops 2y ago
That's not how extradition works, even for a common criminal. They knew that would never be acceptable, which is why they offered it.
wing-_-nuts 2y ago
I'm sorry this is revisionist history. The Taliban offered to try him in an Islamic court of law, under the very same government that had offered him sanctuary while he trained terrorists. This was not a good faith offer. To be frank, they f'd around and found out.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  For what it's worth, the version of events that Wikipedia offers is much closer to what the commenter said than what you're saying: Muhammad Umar told Pakistan that he would be willing to turn bin Laden over to a third country, but the US refused, demanding a direct handover. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afghanistan#Diplomatic_and_political_activity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afgh...
  - wing-_-nuts 2y ago
    You're conveniently leaving out the fact that his council recommended he expel Bin Laden and AQ , and he refused. >On 21 September, Muhammad Umar rejected both Bush's demands and the advice of the council, again denying that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Again, some lunatic from your country just attacks the world's strongest military power, killing ~ 3,000 people, and you refuse? The Taliban deserve exactly what they got. The only mistake we made in Afghanistan was trying to build a 'nation' out of a geographic collection of hill tribes. We should have locked down the porous Afghan border and let SF and northern alliance troops declare open season. As it stands we didn't so much 'lose' the Afghan war as lose interest in imposing democracy on a people that had no desire for it.
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      Actually I conveniently linked to the section within the article so you could find it.

triceratops 2y ago

That's not how extradition works, even for a common criminal. They knew that would never be acceptable, which is why they offered it.

wing-_-nuts 2y ago

I'm sorry this is revisionist history. The Taliban offered to try him in an Islamic court of law, under the very same government that had offered him sanctuary while he trained terrorists. This was not a good faith offer. To be frank, they f'd around and found out.

aguaviva 2y ago
For what it's worth, the version of events that Wikipedia offers is much closer to what the commenter said than what you're saying: Muhammad Umar told Pakistan that he would be willing to turn bin Laden over to a third country, but the US refused, demanding a direct handover. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afghanistan#Diplomatic_and_political_activity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afgh...
- wing-_-nuts 2y ago
  You're conveniently leaving out the fact that his council recommended he expel Bin Laden and AQ , and he refused. >On 21 September, Muhammad Umar rejected both Bush's demands and the advice of the council, again denying that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Again, some lunatic from your country just attacks the world's strongest military power, killing ~ 3,000 people, and you refuse? The Taliban deserve exactly what they got. The only mistake we made in Afghanistan was trying to build a 'nation' out of a geographic collection of hill tribes. We should have locked down the porous Afghan border and let SF and northern alliance troops declare open season. As it stands we didn't so much 'lose' the Afghan war as lose interest in imposing democracy on a people that had no desire for it.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    Actually I conveniently linked to the section within the article so you could find it.