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Nonsense. The first link is dead. The 2nd link, half the town is already destroyed, as you might be able to see. Anyone still in that area is likely a combat

Nonsense. The first link is dead. The 2nd link, half the town is already destroyed, as you might be able to see. Anyone still in that area is likely a combatant. Here you can see the area was ordered evacuated OVER A YEAR AGO: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-orders-civilian-evacuation-in-russia-controlled-kherson-region-4391207 https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-orders-civilian-evac... If you see a drone striking a home, it's because UAF setup a position there, not because they're targeting civilians.

dralley 2y ago
The first link is not dead. None of them are. Kherson is not empty of civilians. Your link only claims that "southern" Kherson was evacuated. If you look at a map it's pretty clear why - it's at low elevation and hard to reach due to various waterways. It was also hit hard by the flooding after the Khakovka dam was destroyed. It is extremely trivial to find out that Kherson still has a significant civilian presence, although many have indeed left. And FFS you can see in the video that several of the people targeted are clearly elderly or medics / firefighters. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155191 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155191 https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/europe/kherson-russia-advance-ukraine-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/europe/kherson-russia-advance... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMpTUOgqkuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMpTUOgqkuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zye_R7M0nFU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zye_R7M0nFU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8C2k37I6N8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8C2k37I6N8 So again, if you don't actually know what you're talking about, maybe pipe down about Ukraine.
- linuxftw 2y ago
  Maybe you should let go of the propaganda narrative. If there are still significant numbers of civilians in a city that's actively being shelled, especially for a country the size of Ukraine, then the authorities there are obviously morons. From the CNN article: > At 4 a.m. on Tuesday morning, three shells landed near the home of Hrigorii, who did not want to give his surname. He said he believes a nearby hospital was the intended target. That's talking about artillery, that's what 'shells' are. Artillery has a very finite range. Why in God's name are their still civilians in the city, let alone WITHIN ARTILLERY RANGE? That's beyond stupid. So either these stories are complete fabrications, which is likely, or there will need to be a lot of Ukranians tried for war crimes after they finally surrender.

dralley 2y ago

The first link is not dead. None of them are. Kherson is not empty of civilians. Your link only claims that "southern" Kherson was evacuated. If you look at a map it's pretty clear why - it's at low elevation and hard to reach due to various waterways. It was also hit hard by the flooding after the Khakovka dam was destroyed. It is extremely trivial to find out that Kherson still has a significant civilian presence, although many have indeed left. And FFS you can see in the video that several of the people targeted are clearly elderly or medics / firefighters. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155191 https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155191 https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/europe/kherson-russia-advance-ukraine-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/europe/kherson-russia-advance... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMpTUOgqkuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMpTUOgqkuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zye_R7M0nFU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zye_R7M0nFU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8C2k37I6N8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8C2k37I6N8 So again, if you don't actually know what you're talking about, maybe pipe down about Ukraine.

linuxftw 2y ago
Maybe you should let go of the propaganda narrative. If there are still significant numbers of civilians in a city that's actively being shelled, especially for a country the size of Ukraine, then the authorities there are obviously morons. From the CNN article: > At 4 a.m. on Tuesday morning, three shells landed near the home of Hrigorii, who did not want to give his surname. He said he believes a nearby hospital was the intended target. That's talking about artillery, that's what 'shells' are. Artillery has a very finite range. Why in God's name are their still civilians in the city, let alone WITHIN ARTILLERY RANGE? That's beyond stupid. So either these stories are complete fabrications, which is likely, or there will need to be a lot of Ukranians tried for war crimes after they finally surrender.