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> Also don't underestimate the value they're getting from making more overtures to the developer community. I wonder if it's significant. As developers, we're

> Also don't underestimate the value they're getting from making more overtures to the developer community. I wonder if it's significant. As developers, we're biased to think it matters, but in the grand scheme of things, 99.99% of people don't have a clue about open source or things that matter to hackers. As far as recruitment go, developers look primarily at how much they make, possibly the tech and how it looks on resume. There's always been a stigma around social networks and generally big tech companies, but not to the point it's going to hurt them.

joelthelion 2y ago
It might make it a bit easier to hire engineers. Working for Facebook? Meh. Working for the "new Meta", on the other hand?
a_wild_dandan 2y ago
AI researchers get huge checks working anywhere. So how does your company distinguish its appeal? Play to a researcher's desire for recognition in their field. Lean on open source. (I'm just paraphrasing Zuckerberg.)
- wongarsu 2y ago
  Similar how places like SpaceX or game development are known for low pay and bad working conditions, yet have no shortage of applicants. No matter whether you want to hire the best of the best or just average people at a lower than average price, being a place where people want to work helps immensely
ben_w 2y ago
I agree there's a lot of decisions that have to be made on the basis of "the tech and how it looks on resume" (as I'm finding out by not having React Native on mine). > There's always been a stigma around social networks and generally big tech companies, but not to the point it's going to hurt them. I'm not sure it was "always": The one Facebook developer event I've been to made me feel dirty just to associate with them, but before that I had no negative feelings. It started off as "the new LiveJournal". Deleted my account for a few years, only came back to it when I started planning to move country and wanted to keep in contact with those who stayed put.

joelthelion 2y ago

It might make it a bit easier to hire engineers. Working for Facebook? Meh. Working for the "new Meta", on the other hand?

a_wild_dandan 2y ago

AI researchers get huge checks working anywhere. So how does your company distinguish its appeal? Play to a researcher's desire for recognition in their field. Lean on open source. (I'm just paraphrasing Zuckerberg.)

wongarsu 2y ago
Similar how places like SpaceX or game development are known for low pay and bad working conditions, yet have no shortage of applicants. No matter whether you want to hire the best of the best or just average people at a lower than average price, being a place where people want to work helps immensely

ben_w 2y ago

I agree there's a lot of decisions that have to be made on the basis of "the tech and how it looks on resume" (as I'm finding out by not having React Native on mine). > There's always been a stigma around social networks and generally big tech companies, but not to the point it's going to hurt them. I'm not sure it was "always": The one Facebook developer event I've been to made me feel dirty just to associate with them, but before that I had no negative feelings. It started off as "the new LiveJournal". Deleted my account for a few years, only came back to it when I started planning to move country and wanted to keep in contact with those who stayed put.