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That folks think it’s an MBA that benefits from building a sustainable media business and not the people who work there, who get paychecks and better resourcing

That folks think it’s an MBA that benefits from building a sustainable media business and not the people who work there, who get paychecks and better resourcing, is one of the great misunderstandings of the journalism business and the reason why I pipe up in threads like these.

adamc 2y ago
No doubt the people who work for the mob benefit from murder, drug-running, and extortion, but it doesn't follow that having them around is worthwhile. Ads are a scourge.
LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
Hm. I disagree. Though I'm too lazy to check up on who's behind the Verge, atm or even initially. Because of things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denver_Post#Newsroom_cuts_and_criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denver_Post#Newsroom_cuts_... Which is only one of many. Just came to my mind because once Pulitzer Price winning, while now nothing special. https://www.westword.com/ https://www.westword.com/ is more interesting, at least for local stuff, if one considers 4 to 5hrs drive in good weather, or a short hop through the air 'local' :) Similar stuff with https://www.aspentimes.com/ https://www.aspentimes.com/ which is now more or less generic drivel, in the same template as much other stuff around there. (See News Neighbors down there, click and compare) Some of those migrated to https://www.aspendailynews.com/ https://www.aspendailynews.com/ which isn't better that much, but still a little bit. Maybe that's just because of the location, and the economic pressures of a former mininig village, which changed into a fully gentrified resort village, milking masses of tourists for the 'unique experience'. Which it still has, far away from the tourist traps, if one can afford it :) There isn't that much to report, which would be public, or the locals being interested in. There aren't that many anyways.

adamc 2y ago

No doubt the people who work for the mob benefit from murder, drug-running, and extortion, but it doesn't follow that having them around is worthwhile. Ads are a scourge.

LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago

Hm. I disagree. Though I'm too lazy to check up on who's behind the Verge, atm or even initially. Because of things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denver_Post#Newsroom_cuts_and_criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denver_Post#Newsroom_cuts_... Which is only one of many. Just came to my mind because once Pulitzer Price winning, while now nothing special. https://www.westword.com/ https://www.westword.com/ is more interesting, at least for local stuff, if one considers 4 to 5hrs drive in good weather, or a short hop through the air 'local' :) Similar stuff with https://www.aspentimes.com/ https://www.aspentimes.com/ which is now more or less generic drivel, in the same template as much other stuff around there. (See News Neighbors down there, click and compare) Some of those migrated to https://www.aspendailynews.com/ https://www.aspendailynews.com/ which isn't better that much, but still a little bit. Maybe that's just because of the location, and the economic pressures of a former mininig village, which changed into a fully gentrified resort village, milking masses of tourists for the 'unique experience'. Which it still has, far away from the tourist traps, if one can afford it :) There isn't that much to report, which would be public, or the locals being interested in. There aren't that many anyways.