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> It feels spacious, natural, functional, and hospitable. If we want to solve the climate crisis, this is everything an airport should not be.

DiggyJohnson 2y ago
Is there any room for ornamentation in your view then? I'm afraid that your cause is dead in the water with that perspective.
- FollowingTheDao 2y ago
  You know how you feel when you walk into a pron theater? That is how you should feel when you walk into an airport.
  - DiggyJohnson 2y ago
    No I don't and that sounds miserable. Why would anyone want that experience?
sojournerc 2y ago
How does a cramped, artificial, non-functional airport solve the climate crisis?
- ddejohn 2y ago
  Maybe by discouraging air travel? lol I dunno.. silly take
  - FollowingTheDao 2y ago
    Finally, someone who is not totally dull. Yes, by making prettier and bigger airports do you think that encourages or discourages air travel?
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      And you think airports are in the green energy sector, or air travel? What about the co2 released while making concrete? What about used captured co2 as a building material? Some credit for that?
  - signatoremo 2y ago
    That is indeed silly. Why air travel and not say, video games, or fashion? Which one is sillier by your definition? And why are you here on HN when you can be somewhere else more productive? Lot of silly things human do, all affecting climate, why single out air travel?
    - FollowingTheDao 2y ago
      > Why air travel Aviation accounts for 2.5% of global CO₂ emissions. https://ourworldindata.org/global-aviation-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/global-aviation-emissions
mionhe 2y ago
How should it be? Are you thinking it would be outside in the elements? Or is there a building type/design that you're thinking of?
anon291 2y ago
If we want to solve climate, we should invest in nuclear, but those who want to 'solve climate' don't seem to care, so here we are
lurking_swe 2y ago
so do tell, which airport do you like? Or should we just ban all air travel? I don’t think you’ll get many people to agree to that so that idea is dead in the water. And apparently private jets are of no concern! The average private citizen must suffer! lol. I’d recommend banning private jets to start…that might actually make a decent dent in air travel emissions without punishing normal travelers. If you want to discourage air travel, tax the fuel appropriately. It’s not a hard concept. For the people that are traveling, i don’t see why it’s a problem that their experience is nice.
- FollowingTheDao 2y ago
  > Or should we just ban all air travel? Yes, we should. Do you have children?
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    There we go, “think of the children”. How many do you have? How much co2 is it going to take for you to raise them until they can be used as a reliable workforce? Hopefully they don’t go sideways before… Oh boy, have I got news for you. The best thing you can do to save the planet is not to have children. I’m pretty sure that my co2 footprint is going to be lower without children than yours with your children.
    - FollowingTheDao 2y ago
      I do not have children, for this very reason. But anyone with children shoudl be concerned for their future.
  - lurking_swe 2y ago
    Do you understand that this is an extreme view? It’s a valid one…but extreme. I’m not sure how air travel would even be banned practically speaking. Would your country ban it, or a global ban? I doubt all countries would agree to that. If your country bans air travel, I suspect many people would just leave your country to move to one that permits air travel, for a better quality of life. A ban only works if it’s banned globally. Also, banning air travel means none of this is possible: • professional sports (teams can’t travel) • olympics • flying for funerals, honeymoons, or for a better life (war refugees) • MUCH slower package and mail delivery across the globe • is medical travel allowed? Not all areas in the world have good specialists or can do all procedures. • scientific research in the wild • leisure travel for vacation, spending time with family, etc I could go on. You personally may not care about any of that, but many people DO. I don’t have children but I plan to someday. Yes each future generation will likely suffer more from climate change, we are on a bad trajectory. But guess what? Life itself is literally suffering. From birth until death. People may need to migrate to new regions that are less affected by climate change. That’s life…suffering. And the climate change train left the station a looooooooooong time ago after the industrial revolution and population explosion globally. Future generations would be better served by humanity being more aggressive with switching to renewable energy instead of trying to ruin fun for everyone alive today. just my opinions. clearly we disagree here. Hope you have a nice day and thanks for reading lol. :)

DiggyJohnson 2y ago

Is there any room for ornamentation in your view then? I'm afraid that your cause is dead in the water with that perspective.

FollowingTheDao 2y ago
You know how you feel when you walk into a pron theater? That is how you should feel when you walk into an airport.
- DiggyJohnson 2y ago
  No I don't and that sounds miserable. Why would anyone want that experience?

sojournerc 2y ago

How does a cramped, artificial, non-functional airport solve the climate crisis?

ddejohn 2y ago
Maybe by discouraging air travel? lol I dunno.. silly take
- FollowingTheDao 2y ago
  Finally, someone who is not totally dull. Yes, by making prettier and bigger airports do you think that encourages or discourages air travel?
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    And you think airports are in the green energy sector, or air travel? What about the co2 released while making concrete? What about used captured co2 as a building material? Some credit for that?
- signatoremo 2y ago
  That is indeed silly. Why air travel and not say, video games, or fashion? Which one is sillier by your definition? And why are you here on HN when you can be somewhere else more productive? Lot of silly things human do, all affecting climate, why single out air travel?
  - FollowingTheDao 2y ago
    > Why air travel Aviation accounts for 2.5% of global CO₂ emissions. https://ourworldindata.org/global-aviation-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/global-aviation-emissions

mionhe 2y ago

How should it be? Are you thinking it would be outside in the elements? Or is there a building type/design that you're thinking of?

anon291 2y ago

If we want to solve climate, we should invest in nuclear, but those who want to 'solve climate' don't seem to care, so here we are

lurking_swe 2y ago

so do tell, which airport do you like? Or should we just ban all air travel? I don’t think you’ll get many people to agree to that so that idea is dead in the water. And apparently private jets are of no concern! The average private citizen must suffer! lol. I’d recommend banning private jets to start…that might actually make a decent dent in air travel emissions without punishing normal travelers. If you want to discourage air travel, tax the fuel appropriately. It’s not a hard concept. For the people that are traveling, i don’t see why it’s a problem that their experience is nice.

FollowingTheDao 2y ago
> Or should we just ban all air travel? Yes, we should. Do you have children?
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  There we go, “think of the children”. How many do you have? How much co2 is it going to take for you to raise them until they can be used as a reliable workforce? Hopefully they don’t go sideways before… Oh boy, have I got news for you. The best thing you can do to save the planet is not to have children. I’m pretty sure that my co2 footprint is going to be lower without children than yours with your children.
  - FollowingTheDao 2y ago
    I do not have children, for this very reason. But anyone with children shoudl be concerned for their future.
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  Do you understand that this is an extreme view? It’s a valid one…but extreme. I’m not sure how air travel would even be banned practically speaking. Would your country ban it, or a global ban? I doubt all countries would agree to that. If your country bans air travel, I suspect many people would just leave your country to move to one that permits air travel, for a better quality of life. A ban only works if it’s banned globally. Also, banning air travel means none of this is possible: • professional sports (teams can’t travel) • olympics • flying for funerals, honeymoons, or for a better life (war refugees) • MUCH slower package and mail delivery across the globe • is medical travel allowed? Not all areas in the world have good specialists or can do all procedures. • scientific research in the wild • leisure travel for vacation, spending time with family, etc I could go on. You personally may not care about any of that, but many people DO. I don’t have children but I plan to someday. Yes each future generation will likely suffer more from climate change, we are on a bad trajectory. But guess what? Life itself is literally suffering. From birth until death. People may need to migrate to new regions that are less affected by climate change. That’s life…suffering. And the climate change train left the station a looooooooooong time ago after the industrial revolution and population explosion globally. Future generations would be better served by humanity being more aggressive with switching to renewable energy instead of trying to ruin fun for everyone alive today. just my opinions. clearly we disagree here. Hope you have a nice day and thanks for reading lol. :)