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Some percentage of those are missing their actual targets due to GPS jamming (others, just straight up terror bombardment). Also, part of the purpose is to crea
by m12k 2y ago
Some percentage of those are missing their actual targets due to GPS jamming (others, just straight up terror bombardment). Also, part of the purpose is to create dilemmas for an air defense with limited resources - save the ammo factory or the children's hospital.
- protomolecule 2y ago[flagged]
- ethbr1 2y ago779 strikes on Ukrainian health facilities is a very frequent accident. https://www.attacksonhealthukraine.org/ https://www.attacksonhealthukraine.org/
- protomolecule 2y ago[flagged]
- oneshtein 2y agoCan Ukraine strike Russian hospitals then? They have lot of military personnel, thousands of soldiers.
- protomolecule 2y agoYou are confusing a hospital misused as military base for healthy soldiers with a hospital treating wounded soldiers.
- oneshtein 2y agoNope.
- gambiting 2y agoI still vividly remember pictures of a strike on a kids hospital in the very first days of the war, where a 2 year old has been killed by a Russian missile. No one has been using that hospital as a military base at the time. Nothing justifies this. There is no logic that could be twisted here to somehow make it look like it was OK for Russians to fire at those targets. In fact it isn't "OK" for Russians to fire at any targets within Ukraine, no matter their setup or positioning - I don't think it can be any clearer than this.
- protomolecule 2y ago> a strike on a kids hospital in the very first days of the war, where a 2 year old has been killed by a Russian missile This doesn't add up. There cannot be only one death from a strike on hospital.
- ethbr1 2y agoThere were 2 killed [0] in the July strike on a different children's hospital, in Kyiv. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/world/video/ukraine-childrens-hospital-strike-digvid https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/world/video/ukraine-childrens... Not sure how much clearer than a video of a missile hitting a hospital this can be? [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europe/ukraine-russian-strike-childrens-hospital-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europe/ukraine-russian-strike...
- protomolecule 2y agoWhich doesn't add up either. It's Ukraine's largest children hospital. Meanwhile there is a sprawling military plant Artem nearby, which has been a target of multiple Russian missile strikes. The Russian MoD said the hospital was hit by a malfunctioning Ukrainian anti-missile, but if you don't believe that, what do you think is more likely: that the military plant was the target and a Russian missile missed it, hitting a corner of the hospital building instead, or that the hospital was the target, but the missile failed in its attempt to kill scores of children being treated for cancer, which would be one of the most heinous war crimes imaginable?
- lnsru 2y agoThis organization has no creditability at all. It lost it complaining about countries defending their borders from immigrants and recent antisemitism campaigns. Sorry. It’s now another anti western propaganda machine comparable to Russia Today. Long way traveled for once Nobel prize winning organization.
- scotty79 2y agoDo you have any proof that this is not the case?
- jonasenordin 2y agoIs this _really_ how you want the game to be played?
- scotty79 2y agoYes. It's less delusional than assuming basic humanity from attackers ... in a war.
- protomolecule 2y agoSo when Ukrainian regime attacked separatists in the Donetsk and Lughansk regions in 2014, were they lacking basic humanity in your eyes? Just asking.
- oneshtein 2y agoGirkin («Strelkov») is Russian agent from Russia. Do we need your permission to kill Russian invaders?
- protomolecule 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Brigade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Brigade
- aguaviva 2y ago"Russian invaders, and the occasional local collaborator or two." Who in any case know exactly what's coming to them.
- justsomehnguy 2y ago> Also, part of the purpose is to create dilemmas for an air defense with limited resources - save the ammo factory or the children's hospital. And how it would happen? Putin calls an AA site and tells them "tehre is two missiles your way - one for ammo factory and other for the children's hospital - it's your choice what to defend"?
- gpderetta 2y agoOf course not. If everything is a legitimate target the defender has to decide whether to expend limited AA to protect civilian or strategic targets. edit: the value of cheap Iranian drones is specifically that they potentially tie up expensive AA.
- mschuster91 2y ago> If everything is a legitimate target the defender has to decide whether to expend limited AA to protect civilian or strategic targets. And this is precisely why targeting civilian infrastructure is a war crime, as is hiding/embedding military infrastructure in or below civilian infrastructure.
- brianwawok 2y agoWell better call the war crime police to send offenders to war crime jail.
- mschuster91 2y agoThere will be quite the aftermath in the Israel/Palestine conflict for that. No matter what, the ICC investigation is here to stay - and both sides will have to face justice. For Russia/Ukraine I'm less certain that anything will come around because even if Russia gets driven out of Ukraine in its entirety, there is zero chance any Russian will be held accountable by anyone on the world stage.
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