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Populist left and right at least indifferent, if not cheering on murder. An insurance company able to extract $500 billion in value from Americans' healthcare.

Populist left and right at least indifferent, if not cheering on murder. An insurance company able to extract $500 billion in value from Americans' healthcare. I really dislike all of it. This country has seen better days.

deprecative 2y ago
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- thejazzman 2y ago
  > celebrating the loss of some innocent person. We're just happy to see consequences for their mass homicidal actions happening TIL mass homicidal actions are innocent
  - yunwal 2y ago
    > is not
- nightowl_games 2y ago
  Even using the term "We" here seems so casual and sick to me. "We" vs "Fascists". Wow. Reading your final statement "the center is okay with fascists' makes me think maybe you are a troll farm member trying to stir up anger and division.
- deleted 2y ago
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- fargle 2y ago
  since you presume to speak for all leftists, this makes things so much easier to discuss; i can just speak to you directly, how convenient! "As for the center, they're ok with fascism which makes them fascists." one could argue that since you have espoused such radically leftist policies that you have then alienated and abandoned a huge swath of the (also now apparently "fascist") sensible moderates and centrists. losing what was, until recently, a clear political advantage. you created the conditions necessary for these center-left, center, and right wing fascists to acquire power. since you are perfectly ok with concretely aiding and abetting fascists, by your style of logic, you're a "fascist" then too. so perhaps one might suggest, in the alternative, to please first carefully check the definition of words like "fascist" [1] before throwing it around loosely. and if you must use it as a slur, do so correctly and judiciously at something vaguely defensible. if you go around calling everybody and everything you don't like "fascist", it becomes more difficult to understand what you actually mean. and then what name do you call the "real-evil-actual-facsist-fascists"? simply screaming insults at super-majority swaths of the population isn't really a viable path toward making the world a better place. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
  - antifa 2y ago
    why did you write all that non-sense when you could call them a tankie?
- netsharc 2y ago
  I get the feeling that reducing all of society into 3 groups, and thinking all 3 groups are the same, and thinking that because you believe X, all of your group believe X is rather foolish. It's what a lot of people do, e.g. some rightwing dumbass dies, someone celebrates, and another rightwing dumbass sees a few peoplecelebrating, maybe they can see these people are left/maybe they assume, and they conclude "See, the left are celebrating, they're all evil!".
Mountain_Skies 2y ago
Identity Politics were very successfully used to destroy Occupy Wall Street. Wonder what they will come up with to derail the populist support for this type of extrajudicial consequence. Should be interesting a year or so from now seeing people who are today cheering this killing turn into defenders of corporate malfeasance because they've been tribalized.
- Clubber 2y ago
  It started before that, at least in the 1990s. I remember a movie called PCU (for Politically Correct University) that pokes fun of this phenomenon. I agree these type of cultural politics is an intentional distraction for more pressing issues like healthcare and finance. One political party pitches a new wedge issue, the other party takes a swing, and that's all the news talks about .. for years. It all seems so coordinated. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110759/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110759/

deprecative 2y ago

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thejazzman 2y ago
> celebrating the loss of some innocent person. We're just happy to see consequences for their mass homicidal actions happening TIL mass homicidal actions are innocent
- yunwal 2y ago
  > is not
nightowl_games 2y ago
Even using the term "We" here seems so casual and sick to me. "We" vs "Fascists". Wow. Reading your final statement "the center is okay with fascists' makes me think maybe you are a troll farm member trying to stir up anger and division.
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fargle 2y ago
since you presume to speak for all leftists, this makes things so much easier to discuss; i can just speak to you directly, how convenient! "As for the center, they're ok with fascism which makes them fascists." one could argue that since you have espoused such radically leftist policies that you have then alienated and abandoned a huge swath of the (also now apparently "fascist") sensible moderates and centrists. losing what was, until recently, a clear political advantage. you created the conditions necessary for these center-left, center, and right wing fascists to acquire power. since you are perfectly ok with concretely aiding and abetting fascists, by your style of logic, you're a "fascist" then too. so perhaps one might suggest, in the alternative, to please first carefully check the definition of words like "fascist" [1] before throwing it around loosely. and if you must use it as a slur, do so correctly and judiciously at something vaguely defensible. if you go around calling everybody and everything you don't like "fascist", it becomes more difficult to understand what you actually mean. and then what name do you call the "real-evil-actual-facsist-fascists"? simply screaming insults at super-majority swaths of the population isn't really a viable path toward making the world a better place. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
- antifa 2y ago
  why did you write all that non-sense when you could call them a tankie?
netsharc 2y ago
I get the feeling that reducing all of society into 3 groups, and thinking all 3 groups are the same, and thinking that because you believe X, all of your group believe X is rather foolish. It's what a lot of people do, e.g. some rightwing dumbass dies, someone celebrates, and another rightwing dumbass sees a few peoplecelebrating, maybe they can see these people are left/maybe they assume, and they conclude "See, the left are celebrating, they're all evil!".

Mountain_Skies 2y ago

Identity Politics were very successfully used to destroy Occupy Wall Street. Wonder what they will come up with to derail the populist support for this type of extrajudicial consequence. Should be interesting a year or so from now seeing people who are today cheering this killing turn into defenders of corporate malfeasance because they've been tribalized.

Clubber 2y ago
It started before that, at least in the 1990s. I remember a movie called PCU (for Politically Correct University) that pokes fun of this phenomenon. I agree these type of cultural politics is an intentional distraction for more pressing issues like healthcare and finance. One political party pitches a new wedge issue, the other party takes a swing, and that's all the news talks about .. for years. It all seems so coordinated. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110759/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110759/