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> Because they arent murdering or killing people to make money. Ahhh. I guess you're not aware of stuff like this? https://www.newsweek.com/hospitals-are-rep

> Because they arent murdering or killing people to make money. Ahhh. I guess you're not aware of stuff like this? https://www.newsweek.com/hospitals-are-reporting-more-insurance-denials-ai-driving-them-1977706 https://www.newsweek.com/hospitals-are-reporting-more-insura...

tptacek 2y ago
This is the second time on this thread you've pasted this Newsweek link as a rebuttal. I don't understand why you think it rebuts either argument.
- justinclift 2y ago
  Does this one help illustrate the problem? https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/15/unitedhealthcare_ai_medicine/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/15/unitedhealthcare_ai_m...
  - tptacek 2y ago
    What "problem"? You're not being clear about what you're trying to say. That a particular insurer has done bad things? Nobody was going to take the other side of that argument.
s1artibartfast 2y ago
Denied claims mean less profit for the insurer. They only get to keep a percent of what they pay to hospitals. Do you have a response to that? One of the primary jobs of insurance companies is to vet claims. If we didnt want that, you could just make a shared bank account and let doctors and hospitals bill anything they want to it. You might save 10% on overhead, but it would collapse instantly.
- justinclift 2y ago
  > Denied claims mean less profit for the insurer. If that were true then United Healthcare wouldn't have rolled out an automated system that (reportedly) denies ~90% of people regardless of their actual need.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    I'm not going to stick up for UHC, which is an obnoxious company, but do you honestly believe UHC is denying 90% of claims? Have you thought the implications of that claim through?
    - justinclift 2y ago
      > Have you thought the implications of that claim through? The CEO getting shot seems to indicate it's probably more true than less true.

tptacek 2y ago

This is the second time on this thread you've pasted this Newsweek link as a rebuttal. I don't understand why you think it rebuts either argument.

justinclift 2y ago
Does this one help illustrate the problem? https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/15/unitedhealthcare_ai_medicine/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/15/unitedhealthcare_ai_m...
- tptacek 2y ago
  What "problem"? You're not being clear about what you're trying to say. That a particular insurer has done bad things? Nobody was going to take the other side of that argument.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Denied claims mean less profit for the insurer. They only get to keep a percent of what they pay to hospitals. Do you have a response to that? One of the primary jobs of insurance companies is to vet claims. If we didnt want that, you could just make a shared bank account and let doctors and hospitals bill anything they want to it. You might save 10% on overhead, but it would collapse instantly.

justinclift 2y ago
> Denied claims mean less profit for the insurer. If that were true then United Healthcare wouldn't have rolled out an automated system that (reportedly) denies ~90% of people regardless of their actual need.
- tptacek 2y ago
  I'm not going to stick up for UHC, which is an obnoxious company, but do you honestly believe UHC is denying 90% of claims? Have you thought the implications of that claim through?
  - justinclift 2y ago
    > Have you thought the implications of that claim through? The CEO getting shot seems to indicate it's probably more true than less true.