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How much damage could he do if no one worked for him? Yeah, the leader is worse than the rank and file, but they're just enabling him. Do you think we shouldn

How much damage could he do if no one worked for him? Yeah, the leader is worse than the rank and file, but they're just enabling him. Do you think we shouldn't have killed rank and file Nazis when they were implementing hitler's plans?

atrus 2y ago
Hey now, the Nazi's believed they were making the world a better place. This guy was just lining his pockets off the bodies of his customers. He's in a class of evil above them. But, the ideal goal is to go from top down, and the allies would have had to kill a lot less rank and file Nazi's if they had been able to knock the top of the Nazi party off.
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  Okay, but if so one doesn't have access to a CEO, it would still be good if they just killed a random nurse working for UHG?
  - atrus 2y ago
    I think the quote of "I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." it very fitting for this situation. Both that random nurse, and that nazi soldier are working for evil institutions. Being killed because you work for evil is a risk of the job. Sure, both the nazi and the nurse may be victims of circumstance, may have needed the money, or been inspired by some propaganda. That doesn't absolve who they're working for though. Should you be killing nurses or nazis? No, you shouldn't be killing any one, just like you shouldn't be gassing children, or denying people life-saving medical care. When you change one side of that equation however, don't be shocked when someone decides to change the other.
    - IncreasePosts 2y ago
      Cool! By the way, who do you work for, and what kind of job do you do?
piva00 2y ago
Poe's Law in action again! There's a certain point where difference in degree becomes difference in kind. An accountant working for a major company which does evil things is a very small piece of the puzzle, the rank and file need a salary to live their day-to-day, there's an open job and they apply so they can live their lives. The CEO is directly taking action to drive the company to harm people, it's their leadership who materialises the evilness, it's their leadership in pursuit of a fucking large paycheck who directly decides that harming thousands of people is worth it for earning a big paycheck. This is a huge difference in kind of evilness, don't conflate them.
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  Okay, maybe they don't deserve to be killed, but can we agree that most of our healthcare workers deserve to be punched in the face, since they contribute to this evil system?

atrus 2y ago

Hey now, the Nazi's believed they were making the world a better place. This guy was just lining his pockets off the bodies of his customers. He's in a class of evil above them. But, the ideal goal is to go from top down, and the allies would have had to kill a lot less rank and file Nazi's if they had been able to knock the top of the Nazi party off.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
Okay, but if so one doesn't have access to a CEO, it would still be good if they just killed a random nurse working for UHG?
- atrus 2y ago
  I think the quote of "I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." it very fitting for this situation. Both that random nurse, and that nazi soldier are working for evil institutions. Being killed because you work for evil is a risk of the job. Sure, both the nazi and the nurse may be victims of circumstance, may have needed the money, or been inspired by some propaganda. That doesn't absolve who they're working for though. Should you be killing nurses or nazis? No, you shouldn't be killing any one, just like you shouldn't be gassing children, or denying people life-saving medical care. When you change one side of that equation however, don't be shocked when someone decides to change the other.
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    Cool! By the way, who do you work for, and what kind of job do you do?

piva00 2y ago

Poe's Law in action again! There's a certain point where difference in degree becomes difference in kind. An accountant working for a major company which does evil things is a very small piece of the puzzle, the rank and file need a salary to live their day-to-day, there's an open job and they apply so they can live their lives. The CEO is directly taking action to drive the company to harm people, it's their leadership who materialises the evilness, it's their leadership in pursuit of a fucking large paycheck who directly decides that harming thousands of people is worth it for earning a big paycheck. This is a huge difference in kind of evilness, don't conflate them.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
Okay, maybe they don't deserve to be killed, but can we agree that most of our healthcare workers deserve to be punched in the face, since they contribute to this evil system?