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> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose
by beachy 2y ago
> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model
Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Dieselgate by keeping the circle of conspirators very small.
If their terms say they won't use your data now or in the future then you can reasonably assume that's the case for your business planning purposes.
- dbreunig 2y agoIf everyone has the same terms and roughly equivalent models, enterprises will continue choosing Microsoft and Amazon.
- cableshaft 2y agoIt's not enough for some companies that need to ensure it won't happen. I know for a fact a major corporation I do work for is vehemently against any use of generative A.I. by its employees (just had that drilled into my head multiple times by their mandatory annual cybersecurity training), although I believe they are working towards getting some fully internal solution working at some point. Kind of funny that Google includes generative A.I. answers by default now, so I still see those answers just by doing a Google search.
- gregjor 2y agoGood luck with that. Fortunately few CTOs/CEOs share your faith in a company already guilty of rampant IP theft, run by a serial liar.
- pizza 2y agoThis seems like the kind of thing that laws and regulators exist for.
- deepGem 2y agoIt's not that anyone suspects OpenAI doing dodgy shit. Data flowing out of an enterprise is very high risk. No matter what security safeguards you employ. So they want everything inside their cloud perimeter and on servers they can control. IMO no big enterprise will adopt chatGPT unless it's all hosted in their cloud. Open source models lend better to the enterprises in this regard.
- maeil 2y ago> IMO no big enterprise will adopt chatGPT unless it's all hosted in their cloud Plenty of big enterprises have been using OpenAI models for a good while now.
- helsinkiandrew 2y ago> IMO no big enterprise will adopt chatGPT unless it's all hosted in their cloud 80% of big enterprises already use MS Sharepoint hosted in Azure for some of their document management. It’s certified for storing medical and financial records.
- NBJack 2y agoIs it? OpenAI has multiple lawsuits over misuse of data, and it doesn't seem to be slowing them down much. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/openai-to-seek-to-centralize-eight-copyright-lawsuits-against-it https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/openai-to-seek-to-centr... Just make sure your chat history is off for starters. https://www.threatdown.com/blog/how-to-keep-your-chatgpt-conversations-out-of-its-training-data/ https://www.threatdown.com/blog/how-to-keep-your-chatgpt-con...
- fragmede 2y agolawsuits over the legality of using using someone's writing as training data aren't the same thing as them saying they won't use you as training data and then doing so. they're different things. one is people being upset that their work was used in a way they didn't anticipate, and wanting additional compensation for it because a computer reading their work is different from a person reading their work. the other is saying you won't do something and then doing that anyway and lying about it.
- e-clinton 2y agoCynical? That’d be on brand… especially with the ongoing lawsuits, the exodus of people and the CEO drama a while back? I’d have a hard time recommending them as a partner over Anthropic or Open Source.