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Is “propaganda” rigging? As of late, whenever someone doesn’t like the result of an election “rigging” is an adequate term.

bamboozled 2y ago
Go to China and try use Instagram :) They know what they're doing by using your love of free speech against you to spread lies. Social media is a backdoor into our societies which is why authoritarian countries ban it. Youtube is banned in Russia, all western social media is banned in China, because they know how it can be weaponized against them...because they weaponize it.
- amatecha 2y ago
  > Social media is a backdoor into our societies which is why authoritarian countries ban it. Sort of. They are perfectly happy for you to use the social media which is subject to the local nation's laws/regulations, and which they have potentially-unlimited degree of influence over.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    Which isn't the same thing as the USA, we just let millions of bots onto our platforms to spread any stories those bots like.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      In USA this is called “freedom of speech” :)
      - bamboozled 2y ago
        Yes but you must see the slippery slope we're on and we have no antidote for.
        bdangubic 2y ago
        no antidote is right... the only semi-reasonable idea I had was to pass a law regarding identity proofing of accounts on ALL social media (anyone claiming protections under section 230 would be in this bucket). the "blue checkmark" would be reserved for any account that has gone through identity proofing (e.g. IAL2). anonymous accounts would still be allowed of course but at least you would have a clear way to differentiate bots and propaganda vs. actual real people with known identities. not to say that identity-proofed accounts would not still be posting sh*t but it would be a better system overall
- id00 2y ago
  Youtube is not banned in Russia (yet)
  - 05 2y ago
    It's blocked. A distinction without a difference.
    - bamboozled 2y ago
      Yeah, by all accounts I have read, it was blocked rather recently. I have read to coverup the failures and huge losses in Ukraine.
dylan604 2y ago
>Is “propaganda” rigging? The propagation of the propaganda can be rigging. Every side has propaganda, so I'm not sure what your intent of scare quotes was meant to do. If you can saturate a publishing platform with the use of fake accounts so that your "propaganda" is pushed by the platform's algorithms in an "unnatural" way, then that's pretty much the definition of rigging.
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bamboozled 2y ago

Go to China and try use Instagram :) They know what they're doing by using your love of free speech against you to spread lies. Social media is a backdoor into our societies which is why authoritarian countries ban it. Youtube is banned in Russia, all western social media is banned in China, because they know how it can be weaponized against them...because they weaponize it.

amatecha 2y ago
> Social media is a backdoor into our societies which is why authoritarian countries ban it. Sort of. They are perfectly happy for you to use the social media which is subject to the local nation's laws/regulations, and which they have potentially-unlimited degree of influence over.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  Which isn't the same thing as the USA, we just let millions of bots onto our platforms to spread any stories those bots like.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    In USA this is called “freedom of speech” :)
    - bamboozled 2y ago
      Yes but you must see the slippery slope we're on and we have no antidote for.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        no antidote is right... the only semi-reasonable idea I had was to pass a law regarding identity proofing of accounts on ALL social media (anyone claiming protections under section 230 would be in this bucket). the "blue checkmark" would be reserved for any account that has gone through identity proofing (e.g. IAL2). anonymous accounts would still be allowed of course but at least you would have a clear way to differentiate bots and propaganda vs. actual real people with known identities. not to say that identity-proofed accounts would not still be posting sh*t but it would be a better system overall
id00 2y ago
Youtube is not banned in Russia (yet)
- 05 2y ago
  It's blocked. A distinction without a difference.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    Yeah, by all accounts I have read, it was blocked rather recently. I have read to coverup the failures and huge losses in Ukraine.

dylan604 2y ago

>Is “propaganda” rigging? The propagation of the propaganda can be rigging. Every side has propaganda, so I'm not sure what your intent of scare quotes was meant to do. If you can saturate a publishing platform with the use of fake accounts so that your "propaganda" is pushed by the platform's algorithms in an "unnatural" way, then that's pretty much the definition of rigging.

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