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As far as I can see the incarcération rate in the US is about 4 times higher than that in the UK. The US even has the death penalty, where the UK does not. When
by wesselbindt 2y ago
As far as I can see the incarcération rate in the US is about 4 times higher than that in the UK. The US even has the death penalty, where the UK does not. When it comes to surveillance, there's no greater set of invasive measures than the PATRIOT act.
When I talk about police states, that's the kind of stuff I mean. And it seems like it's functioning just fine in the US, despite the lack of meaningful gun control.
- manquer 2y agoMy point is that there is not much else the state can do expect gun control they already have extensive monitoring, police forces with free rein, the worst incarceration rate on par with likes of Saudi Arabia as you point out. The only major difference between UK and here is gun control (and to an extent media control) I.e first and second amendment rights . Observing the coverage of this event , more media control doesn’t seem to likely have meaningful returns , so gun control is all that is left. I am not saying the government will be smart to figure it out and do it, however unless they do it there won’t be meaningful impact on the people’s ability to react this way. —- PS: UK unlike Netherlands or like nordic countries is rate limited by capacity of prison system This is also a problem in US a bit less acute though, so it is hard to say what would be natural rate for UK would it closer to US or not. Capacity influences policy on sentence length, early releases etc