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After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of i

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

abhpro 2y ago
But is it better than Claude?
- adamtaylor_13 2y ago
  Genuinely curious to know. Nothing I’ve used comes close to Claude so far.
- rumblefrog 2y ago
  I generally find o1, or the previous o1-preview to perform better than Claude 3.5 Sonnet in complex reasonings, new Sonnet is more on-par with o1-mini in my experience. Would expect o1-pro to perform even better.
bionhoward 2y ago
Unlimited — except you can’t use it to develop [business] models that compete
- handfuloflight 2y ago
  Was that your plan to get your OpenAI competitor off the ground?
xwowsersx 2y ago
Can you share what sort of things you are doing with o1?
- EcommerceFlow 2y ago
  Creating somewhat complex python scripts at work to automate some processes which incorporate like 3-4 APIs, and next I'll be replacing our excise tax processing (which costs us like $500/month) since we already have all the data. Personal use I'll be using it to upgrade all my website code. I literally took a screenshot of Apple.com and combined it with existing code from my website and told o1 pro to combine the two... the results were really good, especially for one shot... But again, I have unlimited fast usage so I can just keep tweaking and tweaking. I also have this history idea I've been wanting to do for a while, might see if the models are advanced enough yet. All this with an understanding on how programming works, but not being able to code.
  - xwowsersx 2y ago
    Interesting, thanks for the details. I haven't played around with o1 enough yet. The kinds of tasks I had it do seemed to be performed just as well by 4o. I'm sure I just wasn't throwing enough at it.
paradite 2y ago
Wouldn't it be cheaper to use API and 3rd party UI if usage limit is your concern?
- throwup238 2y ago
  I was using aider last night and ran up a $10 bill within two hours using o1 as the architect and Sonnet as the editor. It’s really easy to blow through $200 a month and o1-pro isn’t available in the API as far as I can tell.
  - paradite 2y ago
    Aider / Cline are known to eat tokens for lunch, because of the large context and system prompts they use. The tool that I built doesn't have this problem, I haven't exceed $10/month on Claude 3.5 Sonnet. You can give it a try: https://prompt.16x.engineer/ https://prompt.16x.engineer/
- EcommerceFlow 2y ago
  Not simply usage, the new o1 is also FAST. It's just incredibly liberating being able to have unlimited usage of such a smart fast model.

abhpro 2y ago

But is it better than Claude?

adamtaylor_13 2y ago
Genuinely curious to know. Nothing I’ve used comes close to Claude so far.
rumblefrog 2y ago
I generally find o1, or the previous o1-preview to perform better than Claude 3.5 Sonnet in complex reasonings, new Sonnet is more on-par with o1-mini in my experience. Would expect o1-pro to perform even better.

bionhoward 2y ago

Unlimited — except you can’t use it to develop [business] models that compete

handfuloflight 2y ago
Was that your plan to get your OpenAI competitor off the ground?

xwowsersx 2y ago

Can you share what sort of things you are doing with o1?

EcommerceFlow 2y ago
Creating somewhat complex python scripts at work to automate some processes which incorporate like 3-4 APIs, and next I'll be replacing our excise tax processing (which costs us like $500/month) since we already have all the data. Personal use I'll be using it to upgrade all my website code. I literally took a screenshot of Apple.com and combined it with existing code from my website and told o1 pro to combine the two... the results were really good, especially for one shot... But again, I have unlimited fast usage so I can just keep tweaking and tweaking. I also have this history idea I've been wanting to do for a while, might see if the models are advanced enough yet. All this with an understanding on how programming works, but not being able to code.
- xwowsersx 2y ago
  Interesting, thanks for the details. I haven't played around with o1 enough yet. The kinds of tasks I had it do seemed to be performed just as well by 4o. I'm sure I just wasn't throwing enough at it.

paradite 2y ago

Wouldn't it be cheaper to use API and 3rd party UI if usage limit is your concern?

throwup238 2y ago
I was using aider last night and ran up a $10 bill within two hours using o1 as the architect and Sonnet as the editor. It’s really easy to blow through $200 a month and o1-pro isn’t available in the API as far as I can tell.
- paradite 2y ago
  Aider / Cline are known to eat tokens for lunch, because of the large context and system prompts they use. The tool that I built doesn't have this problem, I haven't exceed $10/month on Claude 3.5 Sonnet. You can give it a try: https://prompt.16x.engineer/ https://prompt.16x.engineer/
EcommerceFlow 2y ago
Not simply usage, the new o1 is also FAST. It's just incredibly liberating being able to have unlimited usage of such a smart fast model.