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By what definition of intelligence? :) It seems like a waste of time at best. But have any sovereign citizen got what they wanted at the end of any kind of pro
by pas 2y ago
By what definition of intelligence? :)
It seems like a waste of time at best. But have any sovereign citizen got what they wanted at the end of any kind of proceeding?
It seems like a very bad strategy to solve their own selfish problems. (DUI, speeding, not paying taxes, going against gun regulations, etc.)
And this strategy is usually coming from being unfortunately so tragically misinformed that they cannot help but reject the boring standard model of reality for a bouquet of conspiracy theories.
- sandworm101 2y agoThey do "win" sometimes. The rational person just pays the ticket. The sovcit demands a jury trial and, rarely, gets a win when a deal is offered or a witness fails to show. And often just having the proceeding is the win. They get off on being the center of attention. Defending themselves in court is the one time all the important people have to listen to them. They enjoy it.
- echoangle 2y agoDo you not have to pay court costs if you’re convicted? That’s a pretty bad gamble if you get convicted maybe 90% of the time?
- hn_acker 2y agoCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the defendant has to pay court costs anyway, win or lose, criminal or civil.
- echoangle 2y agoI found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_costs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_costs which generally seems to say that you only have to pay in criminal cases if convicted, or in some states never. To clarify, I'm not talking about the costs of your own attorney, but the cost charged by the court itself. I was asking because in Germany, you generally (only) have to pay if you're convicted, I think.