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Self driving in 13.2 in incredible. Calling it a poor self driving system? Okay compared to what exactly. Tesla is still very profitable so I don't see what bu

Self driving in 13.2 in incredible. Calling it a poor self driving system? Okay compared to what exactly. Tesla is still very profitable so I don't see what bubble has popped except for maybe your perception of him.

bdangubic 2y ago
Tesla is very profitable but company's evaluation is not based on car sales and their current profits off car sales. If it was it be a bubble bigger that .com bubble. Robotaxi is going nowhere and their competitors are far ahead of them and Elon keeps moving the goalposts with it (it won't ever happen). the self-driving is great until it is not, we'll unfortunately get another story (probably out of Bay Area) about someone using 13.x that crashes into something. his perception I don't think changed much on the business side - he is a great salesman - much better salesman of shit he doesn't (and might not ever) have than of the shit he does though...
- DoesntMatter22 2y ago
  Which competitors are ahead of them and how are they ahead exactly? They have the best selling vehicle in the world...
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    https://waymo.com/waymo-one-san-francisco/ https://waymo.com/waymo-one-san-francisco/ and they are not even in top-10 in car sales :) even if they were their current market evaluation would be still insane without robotaxi and all other BS Elon is selling to investors
    - DoesntMatter22 2y ago
      Way more is a joke. They cant even drive on on highways. They cost a lot more and themselves have frequent interventions. No they aren't top 10 in sales yet but they do have the best selling vehicle on the planet. And are profitable where others in the top 10 are not. Many are laden with huge debts and Nissan and Volkswagen have said they are in trouble where as tesla is not.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        > Way more is a joke. They cant even drive on on highways whereas "robotaxis" cannot drive on highways or roads or straight lines or moving walkways :) and by "robo" they mean karen from south dakota... ( https://gizmodo.com/tesla-is-looking-to-hire-a-team-to-remotely-control-its-self-driving-robotaxis-2000530600 https://gizmodo.com/tesla-is-looking-to-hire-a-team-to-remot... )
        DoesntMatter22 2y ago
        Tesla 13.2 is excellent. You haters can continue to hate but it's the best self driving by a huge margin.
        bdangubic 2y ago
        I own two Teslas and will never until I die buy a car which is not a Tesla. It is the best car there is by widest margin imaginable. The “self” driving sucks balls and is nowhere near where it needs to be after years and years of effort.
        DoesntMatter22 2y ago
        You don't have 13.2 do you? WholeMars has an hour and 45 minute video with no interventions driving through Los Angles. 13.2 is excellent despite what you believe about it.

bdangubic 2y ago

Tesla is very profitable but company's evaluation is not based on car sales and their current profits off car sales. If it was it be a bubble bigger that .com bubble. Robotaxi is going nowhere and their competitors are far ahead of them and Elon keeps moving the goalposts with it (it won't ever happen). the self-driving is great until it is not, we'll unfortunately get another story (probably out of Bay Area) about someone using 13.x that crashes into something. his perception I don't think changed much on the business side - he is a great salesman - much better salesman of shit he doesn't (and might not ever) have than of the shit he does though...

DoesntMatter22 2y ago
Which competitors are ahead of them and how are they ahead exactly? They have the best selling vehicle in the world...
- bdangubic 2y ago
  https://waymo.com/waymo-one-san-francisco/ https://waymo.com/waymo-one-san-francisco/ and they are not even in top-10 in car sales :) even if they were their current market evaluation would be still insane without robotaxi and all other BS Elon is selling to investors
  - DoesntMatter22 2y ago
    Way more is a joke. They cant even drive on on highways. They cost a lot more and themselves have frequent interventions. No they aren't top 10 in sales yet but they do have the best selling vehicle on the planet. And are profitable where others in the top 10 are not. Many are laden with huge debts and Nissan and Volkswagen have said they are in trouble where as tesla is not.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      > Way more is a joke. They cant even drive on on highways whereas "robotaxis" cannot drive on highways or roads or straight lines or moving walkways :) and by "robo" they mean karen from south dakota... ( https://gizmodo.com/tesla-is-looking-to-hire-a-team-to-remotely-control-its-self-driving-robotaxis-2000530600 https://gizmodo.com/tesla-is-looking-to-hire-a-team-to-remot... )
      - DoesntMatter22 2y ago
        Tesla 13.2 is excellent. You haters can continue to hate but it's the best self driving by a huge margin.
        bdangubic 2y ago
        I own two Teslas and will never until I die buy a car which is not a Tesla. It is the best car there is by widest margin imaginable. The “self” driving sucks balls and is nowhere near where it needs to be after years and years of effort.
        DoesntMatter22 2y ago
        You don't have 13.2 do you? WholeMars has an hour and 45 minute video with no interventions driving through Los Angles. 13.2 is excellent despite what you believe about it.