> In this example, it seems to me that Christian morality leads to one result, and secular morality leads to a different result. Can you provide examples of wh

> In this example, it seems to me that Christian morality leads to one result, and secular morality leads to a different result. Can you provide examples of what different outcomes they lead to? Christian morality has been used to justify the Crusades, for example, how is that not as corrupt as secular morality? Secular morality has very similar tenets to Christian morality, not harming others is as secular as is Christian, don't cause to others what you don't want to be inflicted upon you is very secular without any need to resort to Jesus to be as valid. Perhaps without you defining what are specific examples of failures of secular morality this conversation won't lead anywhere, I don't know what you mean by it and hence know even less what you believe are the failures of secular morality. > It seems like there’s some sub-rules that don’t exist in secular morality, perhaps because they’re difficult to justify without resort to fear of sky daddy. Like what, exactly?