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You do understand that the supposed genesis of this (in Mr. Brain's own words) was that he filed an ethics complaint about his boss because she decided to reass

You do understand that the supposed genesis of this (in Mr. Brain's own words) was that he filed an ethics complaint about his boss because she decided to reassign some office space he wasn't using anymore? In what world do you think that this sort of behavior is remotely acceptable? How would you feel if a co-worker filed a harassment claim against you (which could have serious career consequences for you) for moving their lunch bag in the office refrigerator? That's basically what he did. Being allowed to resign was letting him off easy; at most universities he could have been terminated for cause. Again: Mr. Brain put a colleague's career in jeopardy over office space. Think about that really hard before you comment again.

yzydserd 2y ago
> at most universities he could have been terminated for cause Is that really true? In my country, there are employment laws to prevent the suffering of detriment post reporting of an incident, grievance, or violation, even if (especially if) the claim is found baseless. It’s important for these regulations to exist because without them some people fear reporting true problems as they may lose their job, and the wrongdoers do more wrong in such a culture. Processes should deal with baseless, frivolous, or even vexatious claims far in advance of any consideration of termination of employment. But I’m clueless on US labor laws, apart from a general suspicion they’re relatively thin.
phonon 2y ago
> he filed an ethics complaint about his boss because she decided to reassign some office space he wasn't using anymore? Where do you see that in[0]? In July, they wanted to take the EEP[1] (a program he ran for many years and was passionate about) meeting room for a new faculty member, and then somehow in September they decided to cancel the EEP program once he started complaining. He kept complaining until they ended up firing him (forced resignation) in October.[2] [0]https://sites.google.com/view/marshallbrain/marshalls-last-email?authuser=0 https://sites.google.com/view/marshallbrain/marshalls-last-e...? [1]https://entrepreneurship.ncsu.edu/engineering-entrepreneurs-program/ https://entrepreneurship.ncsu.edu/engineering-entrepreneurs-... [2]"“You have three options: 1) Retirement, 2) Discontinuation, or 3) Separation. By continuing to argue I will take the path of "Discontinuation." "Discontinuation" means we will not renew your contract. By the end of business on Wednesday I will notify the university and the I&E team that the end of the semester is your last day. Everything ends at the end of the semester. To retire and to avoid "Discontinuation" you must send me your letter of resignation before the end of business Wednesday. If you prolong your argument I will make the "Separation" effective Wednesday, your email will be cut off, your office will be inaccessible, you will not finish the courses this semester. Everything ends Wednesday. To avoid an immediate separation you must not engage in the argument. If we agree to an amicable separation and you begin to argue later it will trigger an immediate separation.”"
- walterbell 2y ago
  NCSU receives federal funds. Do federal anti-bullying efforts apply to faculty as well as students? https://www.stopbullying.gov/resources/laws/federal https://www.stopbullying.gov/resources/laws/federal Do we know why the NCSU 14-year respected department head of ECE was replaced in 2023 by the person who later "exploded in fury" at Brain? https://ece.ncsu.edu/2023/department-head-dan-stancil-to-step-down-remain-on-faculty/ https://ece.ncsu.edu/2023/department-head-dan-stancil-to-ste... > After 14 years of outstanding leadership as head of our Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE), Dan Stancil will be stepping down from his position.
  - arresin 2y ago
    I’ve seen other very small bureaucracies who attract people who are great at politicking but are basically essentially evil and use the position for sadism every chance they get.
- falcor84 2y ago
  Wow, this is particularly disconcerting after seeing their No Retaliation clause in that thread. If they aren't willing to deal with ethics complaints in a non-prejudicial manner, then they shouldn't have such a policy.
- gamblor956 2y ago
  somehow in September they decided to cancel the EEP program once he started complaining The EEP program was not cancelled...Brain was simply removed from the program. It is borderline gaslighting for him to claim that the EEP program was cancelled simply because he was no longer a part of it. If he had filed an unmerited ethical complaint like this at a UC school like Cal or UCLA, he'd have been terminated for cause without the option of retiring gracefully (this actually happened to a professor at Berkeley while I was there). Notably: it's been over a week since his death and none of his colleagues are defending him. There's no drama on campus from students despite the supposed injustice. The only people keeping this alive are a handful of people who liked his website. And that's because...there's more to the story than just the one-sided version of it people are parroting on the internet.
ratg13 2y ago
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yzydserd 2y ago

> at most universities he could have been terminated for cause Is that really true? In my country, there are employment laws to prevent the suffering of detriment post reporting of an incident, grievance, or violation, even if (especially if) the claim is found baseless. It’s important for these regulations to exist because without them some people fear reporting true problems as they may lose their job, and the wrongdoers do more wrong in such a culture. Processes should deal with baseless, frivolous, or even vexatious claims far in advance of any consideration of termination of employment. But I’m clueless on US labor laws, apart from a general suspicion they’re relatively thin.

phonon 2y ago

> he filed an ethics complaint about his boss because she decided to reassign some office space he wasn't using anymore? Where do you see that in[0]? In July, they wanted to take the EEP[1] (a program he ran for many years and was passionate about) meeting room for a new faculty member, and then somehow in September they decided to cancel the EEP program once he started complaining. He kept complaining until they ended up firing him (forced resignation) in October.[2] [0]https://sites.google.com/view/marshallbrain/marshalls-last-email?authuser=0 https://sites.google.com/view/marshallbrain/marshalls-last-e...? [1]https://entrepreneurship.ncsu.edu/engineering-entrepreneurs-program/ https://entrepreneurship.ncsu.edu/engineering-entrepreneurs-... [2]"“You have three options: 1) Retirement, 2) Discontinuation, or 3) Separation. By continuing to argue I will take the path of "Discontinuation." "Discontinuation" means we will not renew your contract. By the end of business on Wednesday I will notify the university and the I&E team that the end of the semester is your last day. Everything ends at the end of the semester. To retire and to avoid "Discontinuation" you must send me your letter of resignation before the end of business Wednesday. If you prolong your argument I will make the "Separation" effective Wednesday, your email will be cut off, your office will be inaccessible, you will not finish the courses this semester. Everything ends Wednesday. To avoid an immediate separation you must not engage in the argument. If we agree to an amicable separation and you begin to argue later it will trigger an immediate separation.”"

walterbell 2y ago
NCSU receives federal funds. Do federal anti-bullying efforts apply to faculty as well as students? https://www.stopbullying.gov/resources/laws/federal https://www.stopbullying.gov/resources/laws/federal Do we know why the NCSU 14-year respected department head of ECE was replaced in 2023 by the person who later "exploded in fury" at Brain? https://ece.ncsu.edu/2023/department-head-dan-stancil-to-step-down-remain-on-faculty/ https://ece.ncsu.edu/2023/department-head-dan-stancil-to-ste... > After 14 years of outstanding leadership as head of our Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE), Dan Stancil will be stepping down from his position.
- arresin 2y ago
  I’ve seen other very small bureaucracies who attract people who are great at politicking but are basically essentially evil and use the position for sadism every chance they get.
falcor84 2y ago
Wow, this is particularly disconcerting after seeing their No Retaliation clause in that thread. If they aren't willing to deal with ethics complaints in a non-prejudicial manner, then they shouldn't have such a policy.
gamblor956 2y ago
somehow in September they decided to cancel the EEP program once he started complaining The EEP program was not cancelled...Brain was simply removed from the program. It is borderline gaslighting for him to claim that the EEP program was cancelled simply because he was no longer a part of it. If he had filed an unmerited ethical complaint like this at a UC school like Cal or UCLA, he'd have been terminated for cause without the option of retiring gracefully (this actually happened to a professor at Berkeley while I was there). Notably: it's been over a week since his death and none of his colleagues are defending him. There's no drama on campus from students despite the supposed injustice. The only people keeping this alive are a handful of people who liked his website. And that's because...there's more to the story than just the one-sided version of it people are parroting on the internet.

ratg13 2y ago

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