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I hope this doesn't spread to Events too... it'll be harder to flake out of stuff. Or maybe that's what they're going for?

by grose 14y ago

alttab 14y ago
Then I'd say fuck events. Stop trying to change my behavior by holding me responsible by being a creepy web application I'm forced to use due to network effects. I still file this one under fuck Facebook.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  >Stop trying to change my behavior by holding me responsible In general, being responsible is a good thing...
  - Buzaga 14y ago
    having the choice is the fundamental thing for fucks sake, what world do you live in? sheep
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      To be responsible or not? Forgive me for not thinking you're taking the moral high road, here, jerk.
      - alttab 14y ago
        I value freedom of choice over "doing the right thing" as freedom is not subjective while moral high roads are.
        Karunamon 14y ago
        You have a choice not to use facebook, I suppose. I can't see a single complaint against this system that doesn't end in bullshitting someone else (i.e. deception). Someone sends you a message, you read it, don't act on it. Now the other person can see you didn't act and ask WTF. It'll cause some friction, sure. People will get over it.
        alttab 14y ago
        I certainly do have a choice not to use it... but then again, not really (I even said people are forced to stay in it due to network effects). Theoretically speaking, maybe I love Google+ but none of the people I want to keep in touch with use it, and thus the lock-in. I get what you're saying. And I really only use Facebook for two things - keeping in touch with family and friends that do not live near me, and posting Anti-Facebook articles to my News Feed.
        Buzaga 14y ago
        you're kinda authoritarian aren't ya? basically, if I got it right, you think that if anyone uses their freedom as an individual to act in any way you and the collective consciousness you follow disapproves then it's ok to limit that person rights and you also think it's ok to just embed your vision of the world as a framework(like, facebook forcing this behaviour down everyones throat) because if everyone would just think like you do, everything would be better? Well I don't agree and I'll never do and I'll also stand up against, otherwise it may well happen! this is a nice article that touches this topic: http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127...
        Karunamon 14y ago
        No, you don't have it right. First of all, I don't see how "rights" ever enter into it. How is it a right, in any sense of the word, to have hidden when you've read someone else's message? That's what this is about. >and you also think it's ok to just embed your vision of the world as a framework Just.. no. I never said that, or hinted at it. Stop reading motivations into my beliefs that do not exist.
        Buzaga 14y ago
        well I was just trying to make the point on the implications some forms of viewing things and doors they leave open but I guess this is also aching to political/ideological views, as I am very libertarian... Anyway, this argument has lost its purpose, better let it die, be good!

I hope this doesn't spread to Events too... it'll be harder to flake out of stuff. Or maybe that's what they're going for?

by grose 14y ago

I hope this doesn't spread to Events too... it'll be harder to flake out of stuff. Or maybe that's what they're going for?

alttab 14y ago

Then I'd say fuck events. Stop trying to change my behavior by holding me responsible by being a creepy web application I'm forced to use due to network effects. I still file this one under fuck Facebook.

Karunamon 14y ago
>Stop trying to change my behavior by holding me responsible In general, being responsible is a good thing...
- Buzaga 14y ago
  having the choice is the fundamental thing for fucks sake, what world do you live in? sheep
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    To be responsible or not? Forgive me for not thinking you're taking the moral high road, here, jerk.
    - alttab 14y ago
      I value freedom of choice over "doing the right thing" as freedom is not subjective while moral high roads are.
      - Karunamon 14y ago
        You have a choice not to use facebook, I suppose. I can't see a single complaint against this system that doesn't end in bullshitting someone else (i.e. deception). Someone sends you a message, you read it, don't act on it. Now the other person can see you didn't act and ask WTF. It'll cause some friction, sure. People will get over it.
        alttab 14y ago
        I certainly do have a choice not to use it... but then again, not really (I even said people are forced to stay in it due to network effects). Theoretically speaking, maybe I love Google+ but none of the people I want to keep in touch with use it, and thus the lock-in. I get what you're saying. And I really only use Facebook for two things - keeping in touch with family and friends that do not live near me, and posting Anti-Facebook articles to my News Feed.
        Buzaga 14y ago
        you're kinda authoritarian aren't ya? basically, if I got it right, you think that if anyone uses their freedom as an individual to act in any way you and the collective consciousness you follow disapproves then it's ok to limit that person rights and you also think it's ok to just embed your vision of the world as a framework(like, facebook forcing this behaviour down everyones throat) because if everyone would just think like you do, everything would be better? Well I don't agree and I'll never do and I'll also stand up against, otherwise it may well happen! this is a nice article that touches this topic: http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127...
        Karunamon 14y ago
        No, you don't have it right. First of all, I don't see how "rights" ever enter into it. How is it a right, in any sense of the word, to have hidden when you've read someone else's message? That's what this is about. >and you also think it's ok to just embed your vision of the world as a framework Just.. no. I never said that, or hinted at it. Stop reading motivations into my beliefs that do not exist.
        Buzaga 14y ago
        well I was just trying to make the point on the implications some forms of viewing things and doors they leave open but I guess this is also aching to political/ideological views, as I am very libertarian... Anyway, this argument has lost its purpose, better let it die, be good!