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Because it was just a silly internal code name for an unreleased product and Carl Sagon was just being a killjoy to his own fans. That he continued to escalate
by yesco 2y ago
Because it was just a silly internal code name for an unreleased product and Carl Sagon was just being a killjoy to his own fans. That he continued to escalate with lawsuits makes him look ridiculous frankly...
- thrdbndndn 2y agoHis reason was "concerned that it would become a product endorsement," and it was after the name was "publicized," which sounds reasonable to me. The joy can only go so far, IMHO. If the namesake person asked for it, you comply—pretty simple. I can totally see why people aren’t comfortable with their name being used without permission, even without the endorsement concern.
- yesco 2y agoPersonally, I think the subsequent libel lawsuits demonstrates it was all just ego
- thrdbndndn 2y agoSo he was supposed to just accept being called "Butt-Head Astronomer"? Sure, I’d respect him more if he did, but I’m not going to call him pompous or having a big ego just because he didn’t.
- thaumasiotes 2y agoWell, suing for libel clearly shows he's an idiot, since there's no claim of fact. Usually if you file a patently frivolous lawsuit, you get sanctioned.
- wk_end 2y agoIt’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoI'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop? Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoIt's possible for someone to have the legal right to demand something and still be a butthead for demanding it. Noting that fact doesn't make you a jerk.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoAs I mentioned earlier, I was not here to debate the legality of his (or Apple’s) actions, but from the moral perspective. In my view, what the Apple engineers did was inappropriate, especially when they doubled down after being asked to stop. It’s not unlike typical bullying behaviors seen in high school ("it's just a joke, why so serious?"). Jokes on someone else are only funny when they approve them.
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoThe moral perspective is what we're talking about. Resorting to the courts over petty nonsense is not a moral act. Not approving the joke because you can't take a joke is a moral flaw.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoThat's a good point.
- Nevermark 2y agoIf he had called Apple “a butthead fruit company”, it wouldn’t make sense to hold him to higher standard. But a legal response to some light hearted rudeness? That was him taking things to a significantly lower standard. If instead, he had used “Butthead Astronomer” to refer to himself on occasion, that would have only added to his (already significant and well deserved) legendary status.
- TheCoelacanth 2y agoYes, that's the nature of free speech. Butt-Head is clearly a statement of opinion and not of fact. Apple is entitled to communicate their opinion of people. It is clearly not defamatory.
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- SoftTalker 2y agoHe always struck me as a bit of a pompous ass.