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Maybe we could change the filetype from .js to .bho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc.#Libel_dispute_with_Carl_Sagan https://en.wiki
by m463 2y ago
Maybe we could change the filetype from .js to .bho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc.#Libel_dispute_with_Carl_Sagan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc...
- diggan 2y agoSeems .law (lawyers are wimps) is more fitting
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- metadat 2y agoThat'd require giving Oracle unwarranted attention. The Sagan bit was funny because Apple engineers transitioned from loving him to resenting him :)
- thrdbndndn 2y agoI just learned about this case today. Based purely on the Wikipedia description, Sagan's request seems reasonable, from a moral perspective at least. I have no idea why Apple (or its engineers) would be so butthurt about it.
- yesco 2y agoBecause it was just a silly internal code name for an unreleased product and Carl Sagon was just being a killjoy to his own fans. That he continued to escalate with lawsuits makes him look ridiculous frankly...
- thrdbndndn 2y agoHis reason was "concerned that it would become a product endorsement," and it was after the name was "publicized," which sounds reasonable to me. The joy can only go so far, IMHO. If the namesake person asked for it, you comply—pretty simple. I can totally see why people aren’t comfortable with their name being used without permission, even without the endorsement concern.
- yesco 2y agoPersonally, I think the subsequent libel lawsuits demonstrates it was all just ego
- thrdbndndn 2y agoSo he was supposed to just accept being called "Butt-Head Astronomer"? Sure, I’d respect him more if he did, but I’m not going to call him pompous or having a big ego just because he didn’t.
- thaumasiotes 2y agoWell, suing for libel clearly shows he's an idiot, since there's no claim of fact. Usually if you file a patently frivolous lawsuit, you get sanctioned.
- wk_end 2y agoIt’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoI'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop? Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoIt's possible for someone to have the legal right to demand something and still be a butthead for demanding it. Noting that fact doesn't make you a jerk.
- thrdbndndn 2y agoAs I mentioned earlier, I was not here to debate the legality of his (or Apple’s) actions, but from the moral perspective. In my view, what the Apple engineers did was inappropriate, especially when they doubled down after being asked to stop. It’s not unlike typical bullying behaviors seen in high school ("it's just a joke, why so serious?"). Jokes on someone else are only funny when they approve them.
- SoftTalker 2y agoHe always struck me as a bit of a pompous ass.
- benatkin 2y ago<script type="module"> doesn't have "javascript" or "js" in it, fortunately. So your script can just be ECMAScript®.
- nailer 2y agoJust call it JS it’s more popular than ECMAscript
- GoblinSlayer 2y agoJabbaScript
- philwelch 2y agoThere’s another part of this story that Wikipedia leaves out The other two original Power Mac models had the code names “Piltdown Man” and “Cold Fusion”—not exactly the sort of thing someone like Sagan would want to be implicitly associated with.
- nailer 2y agoWhy would Sagan not want to be associated with cold fusion?
- AlotOfReading 2y agoBecause it was only like 5 years after Fleischmann and Pons sparked headlines in every major newspaper as scientific frauds?
- philwelch 2y agoAfter a few weeks of excitement over the Fleischmann/Pons thing, cold fusion has never since been taken seriously by fusion researchers. It's a dead idea as far as I'm aware.
- kijin 2y agoPerhaps Sagan had undisclosed resentment toward Adobe ColdFusion as well.
- Daneel_ 2y agoThis quote makes me giggle: One does not seriously attack the expertise of a scientist using the undefined phrase 'butt-head'."
- galaxyLogic 2y agoCall it WebScript. It has nothing to do with Java anyway.
- mananaysiempre 2y agoI suppose we don’t really care anymore about WebScript[1] the scripting language of Apple’s old WebObjects framework[2]. [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/LegacyTechnologies/WebObjects/WebObjects_3.1/PDF/DEVGUIDE/SCRIPT.PDF https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Le... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebObjects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebObjects
- vijaybritto 2y agoThis is an incredible suggestion!
- lern_too_spel 2y agoIt already has a name that describes its developer experience better than JavaScript. The extension should match. .es for EczemaScript.