> Borrowers are not dumb I don't disagree with your overall point, but I do think pre-2008-crash mortgage lending could be a counterexample. Certainly there w

> Borrowers are not dumb I don't disagree with your overall point, but I do think pre-2008-crash mortgage lending could be a counterexample. Certainly there were a lot of shenanigans going on, but ultimately borrowers made the -- IMO dumb -- choice to stretch themselves far too thin, and buy bigger and more expensive houses than they truly could afford. Perhaps everyone today has learned from history, though. (But I wouldn't bet on it.)