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Are they? Someone who actually does the work is not a grifter, by definition.
by throw646577 2y ago
Are they? Someone who actually does the work is not a grifter, by definition.
- mckn1ght 2y agoI think you'd have to work at it to be a successful grifter. If there's a sucker born every minute, then you really gotta be able to scale.
- throw646577 2y agoWork at grifting, yes -- but the description associated with that quadrant is someone who actually works for the goals of the organisation: this is the literal opposite of grifting. Like, the post says "You want a grifter leading a complicated engineering project". No, you really, really, really don't.
- wiseowise 2y ago> No, you really, really, really don't. You do. Believers are too inflexible and will kill the project eventually because of it. Coasters won’t work enough to deliver the project. Grinders will eventually burn out and devolve into coasters, or start divert the project into unrelated territory (focusing too much on optimization, testing, accessibility). Grifters are the only ones who can lead projects, because they understand where the wind blows.
- mckn1ght 2y agoYeah. And I'll just add, so often the success of a project is not in its technicals, but the smoke and mirrors that are used to sell it. Be that to upper management, clients, regulators...
- throw646577 2y agoRight. But if you do all of that in service of the collective goals of the project, you are, by definition, not a grifter -- unless the project is itself grift. (Which it might be, because AI)
- dowager_dan99 2y agogrifting is hard work!
- indoordin0saur 2y ago> I think you'd have to work at it to be a successful grifter. It might take work to be get away with being a fraud, but you're not doing work that's helping anyone you're working with.
- throw646577 2y agoExactly the point I am trying and evidently largely failing to get across :-) You managed it more concisely than me.