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A lot of is the abuse of the label anti-vaxxer. It's being misapplied to people who aren't against vaccine technology. RFK, who is vaccinated along with his ch

A lot of is the abuse of the label anti-vaxxer. It's being misapplied to people who aren't against vaccine technology. RFK, who is vaccinated along with his children: "I’ve been fighting 40 years to get mercury out of fish. Nobody calls me anti-fish."

mmastrac 2y ago
I don't think quoting RFK is a good example of showcasing a rational view of vaccines.
supplied_demand 2y ago
Can you explain what you mean by "people who aren't against vaccine technology?" I'm not sure I follow given that RFK has explicitly said he is against vaccines and that no vaccines are safe and effective. [0] ===In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.=== ===“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.=== ===That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”=== [0] https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731 https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-preside...
- niceice 2y ago
  He should be more careful with his words, but they're resorting to cherry picked quotes and guilt by association to mislead: "appeared onscreen next to" It's unserious. To get his actual opinion, which is nuanced, you have to go long form.
  - supplied_demand 2y ago
    ==guilt by association to mislead: "appeared onscreen next to"== It was something produced by his own non-profit. Do you not think it is fair to associate him with the non-profit he founded and ran? He has had no trouble associating himself with the organization. I feel like we can make the same association without misleading anyone. This is still just a deflection from the question of what "people who aren't against vaccine technology" even means. Can you please define it? I am having trouble seeing the difference between being anti-vaccine and being anti-vaccine technology. NOTE: The comment I originally responded to has since been edited.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Actually he explicitly said that he was not against vaccines. So I guess you can take your pick.

mmastrac 2y ago

I don't think quoting RFK is a good example of showcasing a rational view of vaccines.

supplied_demand 2y ago

Can you explain what you mean by "people who aren't against vaccine technology?" I'm not sure I follow given that RFK has explicitly said he is against vaccines and that no vaccines are safe and effective. [0] ===In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.=== ===“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.=== ===That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”=== [0] https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731 https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-preside...

niceice 2y ago
He should be more careful with his words, but they're resorting to cherry picked quotes and guilt by association to mislead: "appeared onscreen next to" It's unserious. To get his actual opinion, which is nuanced, you have to go long form.
- supplied_demand 2y ago
  ==guilt by association to mislead: "appeared onscreen next to"== It was something produced by his own non-profit. Do you not think it is fair to associate him with the non-profit he founded and ran? He has had no trouble associating himself with the organization. I feel like we can make the same association without misleading anyone. This is still just a deflection from the question of what "people who aren't against vaccine technology" even means. Can you please define it? I am having trouble seeing the difference between being anti-vaccine and being anti-vaccine technology. NOTE: The comment I originally responded to has since been edited.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Actually he explicitly said that he was not against vaccines. So I guess you can take your pick.