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What is GRRM?

shill 14y ago
George R. R. Martin is the author of the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' series, otherwise known as Game of Thrones--the title of the first book and the HBO adaptation. He has gone as long as six years between book releases in the series.
swang 14y ago
George R. R. Martin. Wrote the Game of Thrones novel series. He's known for taking his time with writing his novels and instead focuses on other things, like ranting about the NY Jets. His last book, "A Dance of Dragons" took about 5+ years to finish and get to publication. It was published in 2011, the last novel before that was published in 2005.
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javajosh 14y ago
Sorry, should have added a footnote for him: http://georgerrmartin.com/ http://georgerrmartin.com/ There's also a wikipedia article, of course. He wrote the first 3 books of his 7 book series at a normal pace, about every 18 months, but then slowed to a crawl for book 4 - something like a 5 year delay. Writer's block happens, but what makes people angry is that he continues to have an extensive "extra-curricular" schedule involving workshops, cons, and travel. And he's told his fans "I don't owe you anything," and has shown not only not-shame, but active antipathy to those who have the temerity to call him out on his irresponsibility. What's worse, is that his bad behavior is being rewarded with new interest thanks to the HBO miniseries of the books. I mean, manipulating financial markets for gain, losing your bets, and taking taxpayer money to give yourself a bonus is one thing, but leaving fantasy readers in a lurch is quite another level of villainy.
- BadassFractal 14y ago
  How dare he!
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- anthonyb 14y ago
  So where's your chunky fantasy trilogy then, if they're so easy to write? Edit, since I'm being downvoted, and that was written in a hurry on the train: I wrote a book too. It was really fucking hard, and took a long time, but I'm ultimately happy with the way it came out, and that I took the time to do it properly. The reward for that care and hard work seems to be not "great book, thanks!" but people bitching about how long it took to write. Hence, I now have a very low tolerance for people complaining about other people's work and being whiny and entitled.
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  - shill 14y ago
    Neil Gaiman says it best. George R.R. Martin is not your bitch. http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.htm...
    - anthonyb 14y ago
      That was a good read - thanks :)
    - javajosh 14y ago
      Gosh, I don't recall saying that he was my bitch. Really. Can you point out where I did? Writing code (which is what most of us do here, I think) is a lot like writing books, so it's not like I don't understand blockage or the whole "having a life" thing. Heck, I could understand him never writing another word again if his muse died. That's human and understandable. The thing that draws my ire is not the lack of productivity, but the attitude he has about it. (Which is less that GRRM is my bitch, and more that he considers me his.)
      - irahul 14y ago
        > Gosh, I don't recall saying that he was my bitch. Really. Can you point out where I did? >> He wrote the first 3 books of his 7 book series at a normal pace, about every 18 months, but then slowed to a crawl for book 4 - something like a 5 year delay. Writer's block happens, but what makes people angry is that he continues to have an extensive "extra-curricular" schedule involving workshops, cons, and travel. And he's told his fans "I don't owe you anything," and has shown not only not-shame, but active antipathy to those who have the temerity to call him out on his irresponsibility. You didn't call him a bitch, but I do get a feeling that you feel he should drop his extra-curricular activities until he is done with the book, he owes his fans, should show shame for not completing the book etc. He is a writer who writes books for living. You bought his book and that entitles you to the book and nothing else. Extra-curricular, owing something to you and shame for not following up aren't included with the book. > (Which is less that GRRM is my bitch, and more that he considers me his.) Yeah. If he says "I will write when I feel like writing" is totally considering you his bitch, right? Gosh, the sense of entitlement.
- masklinn 14y ago
  That's a whole bucket of meh, it took Knuth 32 year between TAOCP Volume 3 and the beginning of the volume 4 facsimile. I can't help but cheer for GRRM, even though I'm waiting for the next book to be published.

What is GRRM?

shill 14y ago

George R. R. Martin is the author of the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' series, otherwise known as Game of Thrones--the title of the first book and the HBO adaptation. He has gone as long as six years between book releases in the series.

swang 14y ago

George R. R. Martin. Wrote the Game of Thrones novel series. He's known for taking his time with writing his novels and instead focuses on other things, like ranting about the NY Jets. His last book, "A Dance of Dragons" took about 5+ years to finish and get to publication. It was published in 2011, the last novel before that was published in 2005.

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javajosh 14y ago

Sorry, should have added a footnote for him: http://georgerrmartin.com/ http://georgerrmartin.com/ There's also a wikipedia article, of course. He wrote the first 3 books of his 7 book series at a normal pace, about every 18 months, but then slowed to a crawl for book 4 - something like a 5 year delay. Writer's block happens, but what makes people angry is that he continues to have an extensive "extra-curricular" schedule involving workshops, cons, and travel. And he's told his fans "I don't owe you anything," and has shown not only not-shame, but active antipathy to those who have the temerity to call him out on his irresponsibility. What's worse, is that his bad behavior is being rewarded with new interest thanks to the HBO miniseries of the books. I mean, manipulating financial markets for gain, losing your bets, and taking taxpayer money to give yourself a bonus is one thing, but leaving fantasy readers in a lurch is quite another level of villainy.

BadassFractal 14y ago
How dare he!
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anthonyb 14y ago
So where's your chunky fantasy trilogy then, if they're so easy to write? Edit, since I'm being downvoted, and that was written in a hurry on the train: I wrote a book too. It was really fucking hard, and took a long time, but I'm ultimately happy with the way it came out, and that I took the time to do it properly. The reward for that care and hard work seems to be not "great book, thanks!" but people bitching about how long it took to write. Hence, I now have a very low tolerance for people complaining about other people's work and being whiny and entitled.
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- shill 14y ago
  Neil Gaiman says it best. George R.R. Martin is not your bitch. http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.htm...
  - anthonyb 14y ago
    That was a good read - thanks :)
  - javajosh 14y ago
    Gosh, I don't recall saying that he was my bitch. Really. Can you point out where I did? Writing code (which is what most of us do here, I think) is a lot like writing books, so it's not like I don't understand blockage or the whole "having a life" thing. Heck, I could understand him never writing another word again if his muse died. That's human and understandable. The thing that draws my ire is not the lack of productivity, but the attitude he has about it. (Which is less that GRRM is my bitch, and more that he considers me his.)
    - irahul 14y ago
      > Gosh, I don't recall saying that he was my bitch. Really. Can you point out where I did? >> He wrote the first 3 books of his 7 book series at a normal pace, about every 18 months, but then slowed to a crawl for book 4 - something like a 5 year delay. Writer's block happens, but what makes people angry is that he continues to have an extensive "extra-curricular" schedule involving workshops, cons, and travel. And he's told his fans "I don't owe you anything," and has shown not only not-shame, but active antipathy to those who have the temerity to call him out on his irresponsibility. You didn't call him a bitch, but I do get a feeling that you feel he should drop his extra-curricular activities until he is done with the book, he owes his fans, should show shame for not completing the book etc. He is a writer who writes books for living. You bought his book and that entitles you to the book and nothing else. Extra-curricular, owing something to you and shame for not following up aren't included with the book. > (Which is less that GRRM is my bitch, and more that he considers me his.) Yeah. If he says "I will write when I feel like writing" is totally considering you his bitch, right? Gosh, the sense of entitlement.
masklinn 14y ago
That's a whole bucket of meh, it took Knuth 32 year between TAOCP Volume 3 and the beginning of the volume 4 facsimile. I can't help but cheer for GRRM, even though I'm waiting for the next book to be published.