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I predict it will end up just like every other "successful" petition on whitehouse.gov: "We hear you, but you're wrong and we aren't going to change a damn thi

I predict it will end up just like every other "successful" petition on whitehouse.gov: "We hear you, but you're wrong and we aren't going to change a damn thing."

davidcuddeback 14y ago
I suspect that we'll get another non-answer as well, but that's not stopping me from spending 30 seconds to sign the petition. (Okay, more than 30 seconds because their site is slow.)
jeremyarussell 14y ago
The SOPA petition got Obama to publicly say he would veto anything that is overly broad, without due process and threatens the nations security (the DNS stuff in it). Soon afterwords they dropped it. Albeit they made a new differently named one later, but still I don't think the situation is quite so hopeless. Edit: fixed the spelling of publicly.
- TillE 14y ago
  Was that a change, or just a press release clarifying his existing position on the issue? Cause I'm betting the latter.
wmeredith 14y ago
The answer is not to be quiet. Shady operators in government count on your cynicism to win. Do not give up.
- incongruity 14y ago
  No, but why waste the time with a tool that seems so ineffective that one almost wonders if it isn't designed to make people feel like they're doing something while they actually accomplish nothing – essentially it's starting to look like a bit of a dark design pattern, in my eyes. Has any substantial change come from a Whitehouse.gov petition? (I'm genuinely asking and would really like my above cynicism to be wrong).
crikli 14y ago
Damn skippy. I signed a similar petition campaigning against airport user fees that would basically charge pilots to talk to air traffic control. What I got in response was a paragraph of bad analogies and poor logic...basically a "FYVM for your time" letter. The comments box at Dunder-Mifflin was more effective than petitions.whitehouse.gov
Cabal 14y ago
Isn't this the administration where things were going to be "different?" You know, Change and all that? I'm feeling kinda duped.

I predict it will end up just like every other "successful" petition on whitehouse.gov: "We hear you, but you're wrong and we aren't going to change a damn thing."

davidcuddeback 14y ago

I suspect that we'll get another non-answer as well, but that's not stopping me from spending 30 seconds to sign the petition. (Okay, more than 30 seconds because their site is slow.)

jeremyarussell 14y ago

The SOPA petition got Obama to publicly say he would veto anything that is overly broad, without due process and threatens the nations security (the DNS stuff in it). Soon afterwords they dropped it. Albeit they made a new differently named one later, but still I don't think the situation is quite so hopeless. Edit: fixed the spelling of publicly.

TillE 14y ago
Was that a change, or just a press release clarifying his existing position on the issue? Cause I'm betting the latter.

wmeredith 14y ago

The answer is not to be quiet. Shady operators in government count on your cynicism to win. Do not give up.

incongruity 14y ago
No, but why waste the time with a tool that seems so ineffective that one almost wonders if it isn't designed to make people feel like they're doing something while they actually accomplish nothing – essentially it's starting to look like a bit of a dark design pattern, in my eyes. Has any substantial change come from a Whitehouse.gov petition? (I'm genuinely asking and would really like my above cynicism to be wrong).

crikli 14y ago

Damn skippy. I signed a similar petition campaigning against airport user fees that would basically charge pilots to talk to air traffic control. What I got in response was a paragraph of bad analogies and poor logic...basically a "FYVM for your time" letter. The comments box at Dunder-Mifflin was more effective than petitions.whitehouse.gov

Cabal 14y ago

Isn't this the administration where things were going to be "different?" You know, Change and all that? I'm feeling kinda duped.