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And have no major health issues/accidents, and be quite lucky, and start with a lot of money in the first place, and be born in the right place in the country.
by dymk 2y ago
And have no major health issues/accidents, and be quite lucky, and start with a lot of money in the first place, and be born in the right place in the country.
- WalterBright 2y agoAmerica was populated by millions of immigrants, nearly all of them poor with little more than a suitcase. Welfare and social programs did not make them successful. Opportunity did. Even Elon Musk arrived with just a suitcase. He stayed in hostels because of lack of money.
- vixen99 2y agoYou have a point! It's instructive to see what's happening in Britain right now where many people dare not take jobs or even join training schemes to improve their prospects - because they will lose their benefits. To quote from the Spectator: "A Channel 4 (TV) program Britain’s Benefits Scandal hears from some of those affected – people who are often missing from the debate. We have 3.2 million trapped in a system in which they are given a decent payout – some I spoke to said about £1,300 a month, some significantly more – but who want to get back to work." https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-sickness-benefit-trap/ https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-sickness-benefit-tra...
- vondur 2y agoThe same thing can happen in the US- People may be able to get a job, but it will then prevent them from receiving any aid that may still be needed.
- sameoldtune 2y agoI know two (educated and hard-working) people in my immediate circle who intentionally keep their income below $30k/year so they qualify for state healthcare programs that they couldn’t otherwise afford unless they were making upwards of $150k. So we have accountants and scientists who need back surgery intentionally working part-time barista hours. As a programmer I’m all for gaming the system by knowing and navigating the rules, but the situation is comical.
- easywood 2y agoElon Musk, whose father owned but a humble emerald mine, and was driven to school in a Rolls Royce? Or another, poor Elon Musk?
- WalterBright 2y agoSince you know so much about this, how much did funding did Elon's father give him to start his businesses?
- piva00 2y agoMaybe you need to read it coming directly from Elon's dad then? [0][1] [0] https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine [1] https://www.the-sun.com/news/7911051/elon-musks-dad-errol-emerald-business/ https://www.the-sun.com/news/7911051/elon-musks-dad-errol-em...
- valval 2y ago[flagged]
- piva00 2y agoI'd invite you to give a counterpoint to what I posted, this type of post is not really in line with the guidelines of HN. You're a dad, act like an adult, please.
- valval 2y agoYou’re a bitter conspiracy theorist, inviting nothing but ridicule.
- piva00 2y agoAgain, act like an adult and within the guidelines of this forum. I invite you to read them again in case you missed/forgot: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html As you noticed by your flagged comment, it doesn't matter what you think of me (I really don't care) but it matters how you behave here. It's ironic because this pathetic behaviour seems much more enticing to ridicule than someone sharing opinions :) don't be pathetic.
- daedrdev 2y agoMy understanding is US healthcare is actually has the best outcomes, however Americans are sicker and those without insurance are obviously worse off.
- WalterBright 2y agoFor example, drug addiction and sugar consumption is not the result of the health care system.
- dymk 2y agoThe opioid crisis is a direct result of our health care system.