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How is this a coup? It doesn't seem to fall under Wikipedia or any other definition I can find. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=A%20cou

by nickff 2y ago

How is this a coup? It doesn't seem to fall under Wikipedia or any other definition I can find. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=A%20coup%20d%27%C3%A9tat%20(%2F,to%20unseat%20an%20incumbent%20leadership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=A%2.... Do you consider Justin Trudeau's invocation of the Emergencies Act in Canada to have been a coup?

hyeonwho4 2y ago
The military tried to physically prevent the National Assembly from meeting on a vote to disband the martial law. If they had been successful, the elected National Assembly would have no power. That's about as close to a military takeover as you can get without shots being fired.
ExoticPearTree 2y ago
From what I could understand from the news: - the current parliament and the president are at war: the president vetoed any law the parliament passed because he doesn't like them. The parliament voted the budget and cut funding to whatever the president wished for. - all political parties voted to have the martial law order revoked. I don't know what the fallout of this will be, but the curent president of South Korea is toast. He went all in and lost big time.
vundercind 2y ago
Declaration of martial law isn't necessarily a coup attempt, in the same way that walking into the parliament building—hell, maybe even walking in armed—isn't necessarily a coup attempt. On the other hand, declaration of martial law or walking armed into parliament might well be a coup attempt. Context and intent is everything.
sooheon 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup Korean law specifically prohibits presidential interference with the legislative branch even under martial law, a clause written in blood. The first thing Yoon did was try to lock down the legislature and arrest party leaders. This is a blatantly unconstitutional self coup attempt.

by nickff 2y ago

hyeonwho4 2y ago

The military tried to physically prevent the National Assembly from meeting on a vote to disband the martial law. If they had been successful, the elected National Assembly would have no power. That's about as close to a military takeover as you can get without shots being fired.

ExoticPearTree 2y ago

From what I could understand from the news: - the current parliament and the president are at war: the president vetoed any law the parliament passed because he doesn't like them. The parliament voted the budget and cut funding to whatever the president wished for. - all political parties voted to have the martial law order revoked. I don't know what the fallout of this will be, but the curent president of South Korea is toast. He went all in and lost big time.

vundercind 2y ago

Declaration of martial law isn't necessarily a coup attempt, in the same way that walking into the parliament building—hell, maybe even walking in armed—isn't necessarily a coup attempt. On the other hand, declaration of martial law or walking armed into parliament might well be a coup attempt. Context and intent is everything.

sooheon 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup Korean law specifically prohibits presidential interference with the legislative branch even under martial law, a clause written in blood. The first thing Yoon did was try to lock down the legislature and arrest party leaders. This is a blatantly unconstitutional self coup attempt.