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Interesting how different our experiences were in a similar situation. I had a false positive FasTrak ticket from the San Diego area for a timeframe I was livi

Interesting how different our experiences were in a similar situation. I had a false positive FasTrak ticket from the San Diego area for a timeframe I was living in Sacramento that was tossed (including gigantic late penalties) after a phone call explaining I was at work hundreds of miles away at the time. I was all ready to go with Google Maps Timeline location data but they just took me at my word when they saw where the car was registered.

mistrial9 2y ago
San Diego County is run closely aligned with the military. Any chance that "active duty" or other sorts of status are part of this story ? Second part of San Diego County -- I believe they have a stated goal of tracking all vehicles at all times in some automated way.
- ewoodrich 2y ago
  If you mean me then no I am not military (or been to San Diego at all in over a decade). The fact that my FasTrak account only had tolls for Bay Area bridges and nothing in SoCal (other than the erroneous one) probably made my story more believable.
  - mistrial9 2y ago
    thx for the reply
FanaHOVA 2y ago
Same in SF; I used the FastTrak chat for a wrong overdue charge (I was never sent a notice) and they just cancelled. Every notice also comes with a photo of your car, so not sure what happened to og or when.
potato3732842 2y ago
The person on the other end of the phone has near complete discretion and the process is still not auditable or verifiable to you. They could make whatever they want up and you wouldn't know. You probably got lucky and called in a month when budgets weren't tight and they weren't trying hard to squeeze out every penny so they just waved it instead of giving you the runaround.
- doctorpangloss 2y ago
  > The person on the other end of the phone has near complete discretion and the process is still not auditable or verifiable to you. Does every administrative process have to go to a plebiscite or a Judge to be valid? Where do you draw the line?
  - potato3732842 2y ago
    There needs to be some mechanism by which the people can check the process. An elected official would likely suffice.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > elected official would likely suffice For adjudicating traffic tolls? Why do you think election is going to produce a good outcome? Some jurisdictions would collect zero revenue while others would refuse any appeal on principle.
      - Schiendelman 2y ago
        You're thinking one step on the line. If a jurisdiction refused appeals regularly, the elected official doing that would become more likely to get replaced.
        JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > the elected official doing that would become more likely to get replaced I’m saying there are jurisdictions where this would be desirable to voters. Any area where most tickets are issued to non-locals, for example. If I were running in those races, I’d advertise my zero clemency attitude towards outsiders tearing up our streets or whatever.

mistrial9 2y ago

San Diego County is run closely aligned with the military. Any chance that "active duty" or other sorts of status are part of this story ? Second part of San Diego County -- I believe they have a stated goal of tracking all vehicles at all times in some automated way.

ewoodrich 2y ago
If you mean me then no I am not military (or been to San Diego at all in over a decade). The fact that my FasTrak account only had tolls for Bay Area bridges and nothing in SoCal (other than the erroneous one) probably made my story more believable.
- mistrial9 2y ago
  thx for the reply

FanaHOVA 2y ago

Same in SF; I used the FastTrak chat for a wrong overdue charge (I was never sent a notice) and they just cancelled. Every notice also comes with a photo of your car, so not sure what happened to og or when.

potato3732842 2y ago

The person on the other end of the phone has near complete discretion and the process is still not auditable or verifiable to you. They could make whatever they want up and you wouldn't know. You probably got lucky and called in a month when budgets weren't tight and they weren't trying hard to squeeze out every penny so they just waved it instead of giving you the runaround.

doctorpangloss 2y ago
> The person on the other end of the phone has near complete discretion and the process is still not auditable or verifiable to you. Does every administrative process have to go to a plebiscite or a Judge to be valid? Where do you draw the line?
- potato3732842 2y ago
  There needs to be some mechanism by which the people can check the process. An elected official would likely suffice.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > elected official would likely suffice For adjudicating traffic tolls? Why do you think election is going to produce a good outcome? Some jurisdictions would collect zero revenue while others would refuse any appeal on principle.
    - Schiendelman 2y ago
      You're thinking one step on the line. If a jurisdiction refused appeals regularly, the elected official doing that would become more likely to get replaced.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > the elected official doing that would become more likely to get replaced I’m saying there are jurisdictions where this would be desirable to voters. Any area where most tickets are issued to non-locals, for example. If I were running in those races, I’d advertise my zero clemency attitude towards outsiders tearing up our streets or whatever.