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These are $200 low end cards, the B5X0 cards. Presumably they have B7X0 and perhaps even B9X0 cards in the pipeline as well.

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zamadatix 2y ago
There has been no hint or evidence (beyond hope) Intel will add a 900 class this generation. B770 was rumoured to match the 16 GB of the A770 (and to be the top end offering for Battlemage) but it is said to not have even been taped out yet with rumour it may end up having been cancelled completely. I.e. don't hold your breath for anything consumer from Intel this generation better for AI than tha A770 you could have bought 2 years ago. Even if something slightly better is coming at all there is no hint it will be soon.
hulitu 2y ago
> These are $200 low end cards Hm, i wouldn't consider 200$ low end.
- Narishma 2y ago
  It is when the high end is 1000$ or more.
- amaranth 2y ago
  There isn't a cheaper card that's worth buying over using the iGPU you already have so yeah, that's the low end.
  - wtallis 2y ago
    NVIDIA and AMD don't even make new GPU silicon this low-end. Their smallest current-gen GPUs all debuted at higher price points, though the Radeon RX 7600 is now available at the same price that the B580 is launching at.
- mrweasel 2y ago
  I was watching a few of the preliminary commentaries on the Battlemage cards, e.g. Linus Tech Tips and so on, and they said the same thing "focus on the low/mid-end". My conclusion is that what they are talking about is "low end, brand new, current gen. graphics card". It's a very special type of low end. The Intel cards are getting more interesting for me as I'm questioning my continued use of macOS. Intels focus on Linux support makes their options really interesting, though I don't see a need for something as powerful as these new cards.
  - lhl 2y ago
    Although there are some less powerful cards (the Intel A310/A380s are available for ~$100 and would be fine as basic display adapters w/ good video engines) if you go lower end, modern iGPUs are generally good enough for anything below the $200 level, hence why enthusiast sites (focused on DIY) consider that "low end" these days. The Radeon 780M on Ryzen APUs can power 1080P gaming, and output to 3-4 4K/8K displays (the latest Intel Xe iGPUs are about on par, but generally pricier). A Ryzen 5700G goes for about $150 (or a 5600G for closer to $100), or you can get entire Ryzen 7840HS minipcs w/ 32GB RAM for $400-500).

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zamadatix 2y ago

There has been no hint or evidence (beyond hope) Intel will add a 900 class this generation. B770 was rumoured to match the 16 GB of the A770 (and to be the top end offering for Battlemage) but it is said to not have even been taped out yet with rumour it may end up having been cancelled completely. I.e. don't hold your breath for anything consumer from Intel this generation better for AI than tha A770 you could have bought 2 years ago. Even if something slightly better is coming at all there is no hint it will be soon.

hulitu 2y ago

> These are $200 low end cards Hm, i wouldn't consider 200$ low end.

Narishma 2y ago
It is when the high end is 1000$ or more.
amaranth 2y ago
There isn't a cheaper card that's worth buying over using the iGPU you already have so yeah, that's the low end.
- wtallis 2y ago
  NVIDIA and AMD don't even make new GPU silicon this low-end. Their smallest current-gen GPUs all debuted at higher price points, though the Radeon RX 7600 is now available at the same price that the B580 is launching at.
mrweasel 2y ago
I was watching a few of the preliminary commentaries on the Battlemage cards, e.g. Linus Tech Tips and so on, and they said the same thing "focus on the low/mid-end". My conclusion is that what they are talking about is "low end, brand new, current gen. graphics card". It's a very special type of low end. The Intel cards are getting more interesting for me as I'm questioning my continued use of macOS. Intels focus on Linux support makes their options really interesting, though I don't see a need for something as powerful as these new cards.
- lhl 2y ago
  Although there are some less powerful cards (the Intel A310/A380s are available for ~$100 and would be fine as basic display adapters w/ good video engines) if you go lower end, modern iGPUs are generally good enough for anything below the $200 level, hence why enthusiast sites (focused on DIY) consider that "low end" these days. The Radeon 780M on Ryzen APUs can power 1080P gaming, and output to 3-4 4K/8K displays (the latest Intel Xe iGPUs are about on par, but generally pricier). A Ryzen 5700G goes for about $150 (or a 5600G for closer to $100), or you can get entire Ryzen 7840HS minipcs w/ 32GB RAM for $400-500).