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Freedom seems to be on the decline everywhere.
by JohnFen 2y ago
Freedom seems to be on the decline everywhere.
- poszlem 2y ago[flagged]
- NoGravitas 2y agoThe US has never had a problem with autocratic right-wing governments in South Korea before.
- JohnFen 2y agoThe US has its own problem with declining freedom.
- poszlem 2y agoThis doesn't invalidate what I wrote.
- JohnFen 2y agoTrue, but I'm pointing out that the issue is larger than what you wrote.
- anon291 2y agoHow so? That may have been true a few years ago during the COVID lockdowns, but as we've recently seen, Americans will often punish that behavior heavily at the poll booth
- JohnFen 2y agoI think that post-covid US has been more antagonistic to freedom than ever before in my lifetime, and the trend is getting worse.
- anon291 2y agoGive an example
- kube-system 2y agoIt wasn't even true then. The COVID lockdowns were child's play compared to the abuses of freedom in the US's past, and they're a mere suggestion compared to the lockdowns in other places around the world. Anyone who thinks the government asking you sternly to "please stay inside" is an abuse of power must have fallen asleep in American history class. Or have never talked to their grandparents about politics in the past. There are still people alive in the US who were imprisoned due to their ethnicity.
- anon291 2y agoIf something has to be worse than slavery in order to qualify as an abuse of freedom, then nothing is going to qualify ever. > Anyone who thinks the government asking you sternly to "please stay inside" is an abuse of power American states jailed pastors, fined churches, and charged individuals with violations of 'laws' against things like worshipping together or assembling. > must have fallen asleep in American history class. Site rules :)
- kube-system 2y agoThose were isolated enough incidents to be newsworthy, and public health measures have plenty of precedence in US history. Whether or not you think they are an abuse of power, they are absolutely not indicative of a decline in freedom. And I'm not even talking about slavery, I'm talking about the 20th century. Heck, over my lifetime I have seen vaccine mandates go from something that was normal, uncontroversial, and you'd be seen as a weird radical if you were against them -- to a hot topic of public debate.
- tzs 2y agoCOVID wasn't the first epidemic or pandemic that the US has dealt with, and similar measures were taken in many of those.
- smegger001 2y agoIronically the first epidemic lock downs in the country were done by the founding fathers themselves in responset to yellow fever. Back in the 1790s.
- Tallianar 2y agoThe US is definitely still playing world police.
- vachina 2y agoHelp me understand why US should be world police.
- kube-system 2y agoBecause the world has never been a more peaceful place than when the US was a major dominant superpower. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana
- maronato 2y agoPax Americana is about the American military and economic dominance over other nations. > the world has never been a more peaceful place That isn’t written anywhere in the article you linked, and is provably false. Many places in the Middle East, Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia have been either invaded by, ignored by, or coup’d by the US during Pax Americana. It’s only “peaceful” for US & Friends because a lot of people are dying by American bullets in other places.
- kube-system 2y agoIt's the dang title of the article and again in the first sentence. And it's provably true: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3816326/ourworldindata_wars-long-run-military-civilian-fatalities-from-brecke1.0.png https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3816326/o... Since the mid 20th century, we've seen a decline from some of the the bloodiest times on the planet, to the most peaceful. > Many places in the Middle East, Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia have been either invaded by, ignored by, or coup’d by the US during Pax Americana. So? 'Peace' is being used here as a relative term. Humans have always engaged in war to varying non-zero degrees.
- poszlem 2y agoBecause a world with one hegemon is much more stable that a world with multiple ones.
- tim333 2y ago
- xnyan 2y agoThe US world police has fully supported autocratic South Korean regimes for as long as they have been world police.
- tim333 2y agoTrump today: "...if the hostages are not released prior to January 20, 2025, the date that I proudly assume Office as President of the United States, there will be ALL HELL TO PAY in the Middle East, and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities ..." Sounds like the policing continues.
- majesticglue 2y agowhat are you talking about lmao. US is playing "who should we start war with next". I guess you watched too much mainstream media and cross checked information with media outlets outside US and independent journalists. To be fair it's normal to be ignorant like yourself when mainstream media is a lot more channels than people think.