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I'm not familiar with the situation but reading the article, this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in powe

I'm not familiar with the situation but reading the article, this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in power.

bluGill 2y ago
From what I can tell Netanyahu was honestly elected. There is still reason to suspect he will be voted out in the next election (if he won the current war in 2 months he would be sure to win) and will peacefully transition power. Only time will tell of course, for now at least it still looks like someone in power that you may not like but honestly elected by his own people.
- BadHumans 2y ago
  I'm referring to the fact that Netanyahu is facing criminal charges and is using the war to delay his court hearings and simultaneously flatten Gaza.
  - heraldgeezer 2y ago
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- cess11 2y ago
  Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. The US had to delist some terrorist organisation to make it possible for him to form a government, which went on to intensify the crimes against the palestinians while routinely lying about it, and then shrugged off warnings about the coming attack on October 7th, and then he's been lying about the policy regarding captives, and so on and so on. In Israel it's common to view his genocidal use of the IOF as a way to cling to power and avoid prosecution.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    > Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. It shouldn't. People are complex - all of them. Many people do both good and bad things. We should celebrate and encourage the good even while condemning the bad.
    - cess11 2y ago
      OK, I'll bite. What good has Netanyahu done that deserves attention?
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in power Not comparable. This is a coup d'etat. Netanyahu is a corrupt politician; President Yoon is attempting to rise above politics.
- NickC25 2y ago
  Bibi, upon being convicted for corruption, tried to reform the Israeli judiciary (which led to mass protests) to cement himself in power right before the attacks last year. Now Israelis kowtow to him and blindly follow his lead. How convenient!
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > tried to reform the Israeli judiciary (which led to mass protests) to cement himself in power right before the attacks last year Right. This is politics. Martial law would have meant the judiciary is irrelevant.
    - r00fus 2y ago
      You're splitting hairs. Both are attempts to silence opposition by breaking the rules. FDR was unstoppable except for when he tried to pack the courts.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > You're splitting hairs. Both are attempts to silence opposition by breaking the rules You're calling the line between civilian rule and martial law a hair? > FDR was unstoppable except for when he tried to pack the courts FDR never attempted a coup d'etat.
  - edanm 2y ago
    He was not convicted for corruption, he's on trial for corruption. And Israelis don't kowtow to him at all, the same Israelis who were out protesting the judicial reform, the largest protests in Israeli history, are still very much against him.

I'm not familiar with the situation but reading the article, this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in power.

bluGill 2y ago

From what I can tell Netanyahu was honestly elected. There is still reason to suspect he will be voted out in the next election (if he won the current war in 2 months he would be sure to win) and will peacefully transition power. Only time will tell of course, for now at least it still looks like someone in power that you may not like but honestly elected by his own people.

BadHumans 2y ago
I'm referring to the fact that Netanyahu is facing criminal charges and is using the war to delay his court hearings and simultaneously flatten Gaza.
- heraldgeezer 2y ago
  [flagged]
cess11 2y ago
Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. The US had to delist some terrorist organisation to make it possible for him to form a government, which went on to intensify the crimes against the palestinians while routinely lying about it, and then shrugged off warnings about the coming attack on October 7th, and then he's been lying about the policy regarding captives, and so on and so on. In Israel it's common to view his genocidal use of the IOF as a way to cling to power and avoid prosecution.
- bluGill 2y ago
  > Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. It shouldn't. People are complex - all of them. Many people do both good and bad things. We should celebrate and encourage the good even while condemning the bad.
  - cess11 2y ago
    OK, I'll bite. What good has Netanyahu done that deserves attention?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in power Not comparable. This is a coup d'etat. Netanyahu is a corrupt politician; President Yoon is attempting to rise above politics.

NickC25 2y ago
Bibi, upon being convicted for corruption, tried to reform the Israeli judiciary (which led to mass protests) to cement himself in power right before the attacks last year. Now Israelis kowtow to him and blindly follow his lead. How convenient!
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > tried to reform the Israeli judiciary (which led to mass protests) to cement himself in power right before the attacks last year Right. This is politics. Martial law would have meant the judiciary is irrelevant.
  - r00fus 2y ago
    You're splitting hairs. Both are attempts to silence opposition by breaking the rules. FDR was unstoppable except for when he tried to pack the courts.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > You're splitting hairs. Both are attempts to silence opposition by breaking the rules You're calling the line between civilian rule and martial law a hair? > FDR was unstoppable except for when he tried to pack the courts FDR never attempted a coup d'etat.
- edanm 2y ago
  He was not convicted for corruption, he's on trial for corruption. And Israelis don't kowtow to him at all, the same Israelis who were out protesting the judicial reform, the largest protests in Israeli history, are still very much against him.