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I find it humorous that someone claiming the throne of righteousness and correctness about rising above the evil men dominating the world of video games has rea

by gergles 14y ago

I find it humorous that someone claiming the throne of righteousness and correctness about rising above the evil men dominating the world of video games has reacted to criticism by posting a drawing branding men (and ONLY men) as "trolls" (accompanied with a 'hss' sound effect, even! [1],) yet somehow has the unmitigated temerity to complain about sexism. Plank in your eye and all that. [1]: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/posts/247064 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-wome...

AlexandrB 14y ago
> criticism There's a line between criticism and what happened to her. Are you seriously comparing a cartoon mocking non-specific trolls* to sustained abusive material (and doxing) aimed directly at an individual target? *One of the trolls in that picture is most likely male, the others (smaller ones) are really non-descript and genderless. Are you sure this isn't just a case of you using "male" as the default gender for an androgynous picture?
- true_religion 14y ago
  Hey, merely comparing two things does not mean anyone is implying they're equivalent in weight.
scribu 14y ago
You're making it sound like she's saying _all_ men are trolls, when in fact it was aimed at the people harassing her, which are probably 100% male.
- papsosouid 14y ago
  While they are probably mostly male, they are certainly not 100% male, I know a woman who was part of the trolling effort. Also, we should look at the other side of the coin also. 90% of the people supporting her and funding her videos are male also.
hypersoar 14y ago
Have you seen any of her work? She hardly preaches the "correctness about rising above evil men". In her existing Youtube videos, which talk about film and TV, she simply calls attention to potentially troubling aspects of the portrayal of women that are often ignored. I certainly don't agree with all of her criticisms, but she's not breathing fire. Her commentary is thoughtful enough to be part of a legitimate conversation.
marijn 14y ago
Step back for a second. Your 'criticism' is extremely far fetched -- there's nothing whatsoever to indicate that the three trolls in the picture are supposed to symbolize men in general -- but somehow you did choose to go down that road of thought because you had a need to neutralize and downplay the issue here. Where does that come from? A knee-jerk reaction to the concept of 'feminism'? A primitive tribal association with a gender? In any case, it is disconcerting to see.
IsaacSchlueter 14y ago
I am shocked and offended that you seem to believe that all men are trolls. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.
IsaacSchlueter 14y ago
I am shocked and offended that you seem to believe that all men are trolls. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.

by gergles 14y ago

AlexandrB 14y ago

> criticism There's a line between criticism and what happened to her. Are you seriously comparing a cartoon mocking non-specific trolls* to sustained abusive material (and doxing) aimed directly at an individual target? *One of the trolls in that picture is most likely male, the others (smaller ones) are really non-descript and genderless. Are you sure this isn't just a case of you using "male" as the default gender for an androgynous picture?

true_religion 14y ago
Hey, merely comparing two things does not mean anyone is implying they're equivalent in weight.

scribu 14y ago

You're making it sound like she's saying _all_ men are trolls, when in fact it was aimed at the people harassing her, which are probably 100% male.

papsosouid 14y ago
While they are probably mostly male, they are certainly not 100% male, I know a woman who was part of the trolling effort. Also, we should look at the other side of the coin also. 90% of the people supporting her and funding her videos are male also.

hypersoar 14y ago

Have you seen any of her work? She hardly preaches the "correctness about rising above evil men". In her existing Youtube videos, which talk about film and TV, she simply calls attention to potentially troubling aspects of the portrayal of women that are often ignored. I certainly don't agree with all of her criticisms, but she's not breathing fire. Her commentary is thoughtful enough to be part of a legitimate conversation.

marijn 14y ago

Step back for a second. Your 'criticism' is extremely far fetched -- there's nothing whatsoever to indicate that the three trolls in the picture are supposed to symbolize men in general -- but somehow you did choose to go down that road of thought because you had a need to neutralize and downplay the issue here. Where does that come from? A knee-jerk reaction to the concept of 'feminism'? A primitive tribal association with a gender? In any case, it is disconcerting to see.

IsaacSchlueter 14y ago

I am shocked and offended that you seem to believe that all men are trolls. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.

IsaacSchlueter 14y ago

I am shocked and offended that you seem to believe that all men are trolls. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.