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> When paired with a decent A2 card (e.g.: Kingston Canvas Go), the SD-card related lag disappears. Add a good external SSD, you have tons of solid state storag
by throwup238 2y ago
> When paired with a decent A2 card (e.g.: Kingston Canvas Go), the SD-card related lag disappears. Add a good external SSD, you have tons of solid state storage. At that point you can just forget it.
At that point you can just underclock an N100 NUC for the same price and almost the same TDP (it's pretty much even with the SSD). Most vendors configure the CPU well into diminishing returns for marketing reasons and even a small undervolt can make them passive (the same is true of many laptops).
I get the form factor issue but exposed RPis without the enclosure (more $$) are a burned out board waiting to happen. I use them in enclosed hardware that needs gpio like 3d printers but the N100 wins every other time.
- 05 2y agoEven with printers, you can connect via usb if we're talking Klipper..
- throwup238 2y agoDuet 3 with daughter boards for tool switching and multiple extruders (customized Voron 2.4)
- bayindirh 2y agoYou can't rule out a fan sucking in dusty air from side or worse, bottom of the case. Most N100 systems have too much air circulation inside to forget them in the long term. Many N100 systems come with 5W TDP as default. However, this is more of an "average" TDP. It doesn't prevent the CPU to enable its turbo and exhaust its thermal budget. Forcing it to lower envelopes via cpufreqd would work, but you're limited by your fan again, which will make everything dusty, eventually. I have found a pretty cheap completely aluminum case [0] which sucks heat from every IC and bottom of the case via silicon thermal pads. It keeps the processor at 37 degrees, cools USB bridge and power controller too. With no moving part, case is almost airtight. So, it's sitting snug and cool in that case. You can't burn RPi in that configuration. [0]: https://www.amazon.com/GeeekPi-Aluminum-Raspberry-Cooling-Thermal/dp/B0CP2DSWHD?ref_=ast_sto_dp https://www.amazon.com/GeeekPi-Aluminum-Raspberry-Cooling-Th...
- f_devd 2y agoWe use fanless creditcard-sized N100 from upboard without issues although we haven't done undervolting yet.
- bayindirh 2y agoOh, I didn't see that form factor, can you share a link? Oh, upboard. That thing starts from $229 as a box. Not exactly cheap, and 8GB/64GB version is $279. [0]: https://up-shop.org/default/up-7000-edge-series.html https://up-shop.org/default/up-7000-edge-series.html
- f_devd 2y agoTrue, it's not as cheap but significantly faster with the same approx power usage
- JohnBooty 2y agoAt that point you can just underclock an N100 NUC for the same price and almost the same TDP Good advice, thanks. Been so long since I underclocked/undervolted I literally forgot it was a thing!