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The GPIO was always the point. Pis were supposed to be educational tools. People using them as cheap computers ruined it.

baq 2y ago
They were cheap computers, so people used them as cheap computers, I don't understand your point at all. For a quite a long time they were also the de-facto standard way of making a LED blink over the internet without having to dive into the embedded space.
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catdog 2y ago
Wouldn't say it ruined it. People used them as cheap computers because at the time there barely were good alternatives for that cheap of a computer.
Cumpiler69 2y ago
>The GPIO was always the point. You ca get GPIO on the cheap from a Arduino, ESP8/32, or RP2040 microcontroller. RPi itself is far too wasteful for that. > People using them as cheap computers ruined it. False, industrial users using them in all commercial embedded products ruined it. Almost nobody is using RPis as cheap computers at home since they suck at that: too expensive, too underpowered and too limited in functionality to be a computer for the average joe My RPi 2 becomes an unusable stuttery mess when I open a web browser and for the price of a RPi 5 I got a used quad core Intel 8th gen laptop with 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD which not only beats the RPi at any and all computer tasks, but it also comes with built in keyboard, 1080p monitor, battery, charger and I can take with me to do work on the go. The only thing I see the RPi good at at home is a headless PiHole/VPN or whatever, not as an actual desktop computer replacement.
- immibis 2y ago
  A Raspberry Pi was a full Linux computer with GPIOs. You can run whatever daemons and still control a relay board. No microcontroller fills that niche. There still isn't really anything in that niche other than single-board computers (i.e. Raspberry Pi clones) - for example, NUCs don't have GPIOs on them. Of course you can fall back to the previous standard idea - connecting an Arduino to another computer and communicating by the serial port.
zitsarethecure 2y ago
> People using them as cheap computers ruined it. IMO it is the people using them as embedded controllers for their products that ruined it, in combination with the poor decision by the Raspberry Pi folks to prioritize commercial demand for the products over hobbyist demand during the pandemic. We hobbyists "made do" with other solutions in that time, and now there's no real need to go back.
mbesto 2y ago
Ruined precisely what?
- globular-toast 2y ago
  The price.

baq 2y ago

They were cheap computers, so people used them as cheap computers, I don't understand your point at all. For a quite a long time they were also the de-facto standard way of making a LED blink over the internet without having to dive into the embedded space.

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catdog 2y ago

Wouldn't say it ruined it. People used them as cheap computers because at the time there barely were good alternatives for that cheap of a computer.

Cumpiler69 2y ago

>The GPIO was always the point. You ca get GPIO on the cheap from a Arduino, ESP8/32, or RP2040 microcontroller. RPi itself is far too wasteful for that. > People using them as cheap computers ruined it. False, industrial users using them in all commercial embedded products ruined it. Almost nobody is using RPis as cheap computers at home since they suck at that: too expensive, too underpowered and too limited in functionality to be a computer for the average joe My RPi 2 becomes an unusable stuttery mess when I open a web browser and for the price of a RPi 5 I got a used quad core Intel 8th gen laptop with 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD which not only beats the RPi at any and all computer tasks, but it also comes with built in keyboard, 1080p monitor, battery, charger and I can take with me to do work on the go. The only thing I see the RPi good at at home is a headless PiHole/VPN or whatever, not as an actual desktop computer replacement.

immibis 2y ago
A Raspberry Pi was a full Linux computer with GPIOs. You can run whatever daemons and still control a relay board. No microcontroller fills that niche. There still isn't really anything in that niche other than single-board computers (i.e. Raspberry Pi clones) - for example, NUCs don't have GPIOs on them. Of course you can fall back to the previous standard idea - connecting an Arduino to another computer and communicating by the serial port.

zitsarethecure 2y ago

> People using them as cheap computers ruined it. IMO it is the people using them as embedded controllers for their products that ruined it, in combination with the poor decision by the Raspberry Pi folks to prioritize commercial demand for the products over hobbyist demand during the pandemic. We hobbyists "made do" with other solutions in that time, and now there's no real need to go back.

mbesto 2y ago

Ruined precisely what?

globular-toast 2y ago
The price.