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Can you link a few that are in the Pi5 price range? Pi is ~70 EUR including ~25% VAT. Cheapest N100 I found in 5 minutes of searching was a ACEMAGIC T8 Plus

Can you link a few that are in the Pi5 price range? Pi is ~70 EUR including ~25% VAT. Cheapest N100 I found in 5 minutes of searching was a ACEMAGIC T8 Plus for ~160 EUR. (Currently sold out)

buckle8017 2y ago
> Pi is ~70 EUR including ~25% VAT. Now add a power supply and case.
- nxpnsv 2y ago
  What if you don't need a box or power supply? And what if you like then gpio pins?
  - puzzlingcaptcha 2y ago
    FT232H breakout board is a couple of bucks.
    - thelastparadise 2y ago
      Thank you. No one ever talks about just how easy it is to add GPIO to anything.
    - RachelF 2y ago
      Thanks for that!
- Mashimo 2y ago
  No, but thank you. I put them into a 3D printer that already has all that. But I need to add a 16 or 32GB SD card. Around 10 EUR, maybe less.
  - fransje26 2y ago
    Is it a home-built 3D printer?
dsissitka 2y ago
They're only really comparable if you want an 8 GB Pi 5. Right now I could buy a 4 GB Pi 5 setup (Pi 5, case, power supply) from CanaKit for $82. $97 if I didn't have an SD card to spare. I don't buy mini PCs from random companies. The last N100 I bought was the NucBox G2 for $139: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCDL6VS3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCDL6VS3 If I didn't need the second ethernet port I probably would've grabbed the NucBox G5 for $136: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZRJL7JM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZRJL7JM
- Mashimo 2y ago
  Cheapest G5 in Europe I could find was 180 EUR, but sold out. And on amazon.de it's 280 EUR.
  - dsissitka 2y ago
    Oh yeah. I have no idea what's available there. Sorry! GMKtec sells on AliExpress if you don't mind going that route: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806972422176.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806972422176.html
  - Medox 2y ago
    GMKtec Mini PC N97 [1] is 160 EUR on amazon.de (with the 70 EURO voucher that is). Got mine with free shipping to Romania, as the purchase was over 50 EUR. Also, the N97 has better performance than the N100, but the power consumption is higher. For me its a plus as it's more powerful than the usual N100 mini PC's while much smaller and fan noise is quite low (for now at least...). Not really intended for high workloads and 24/7 anyway. More like a backpack PC. [1] https://www.amazon.de/-/en/G5-Computer-Generation-12GB-256GB/dp/B0D1MGL9RC https://www.amazon.de/-/en/G5-Computer-Generation-12GB-256GB...
    - TiredOfLife 2y ago
      For me it shows as €233.82
      - 2y ago
magicalhippo 2y ago
Over at AliExpress there are tons of options, like this[1] or this[2] fun 4x M.2 box. Yes they're about twice the price of a bare Pi5, but they come with metal cases and power supplies, can fit an M.2 NVME without add-ons, and like the first example also includes some RAM and storage. While likely not the best quality RAM and storage, what I got in mine has held up to light use for several months so far without issues, so better than nothing. YMMV. I bought a few 2GB RPi4's when they were $35. At that price point they were great. I don't get the RPi5, especially 4GB+ variants. [1]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007511663921.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007511663921.html [2]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007900081466.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007900081466.html
- Mashimo 2y ago
  [1] is 150 EUR from EU, not bad. I can see myself give it a go at some point. Still twice the price for my needs.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    Right, it's twice the price but like 10x the capability (unless you need GPIO). That's why I think the lower-end, lower-priced RPi4 made more sense. Fast enough to have decent network speed and run a lot of functional workloads, cheap enough that you could "spam" them.
    - Mashimo 2y ago
      I use it in a 3d printer. I don't need 10x the capabilities. For my usecase it's just 70 EUR more, with the only benefit it might boot and update faster.
  - mikae1 2y ago
    And then I have to add 25% VAT because the order is more than 1500 SEK.
    - Mashimo 2y ago
Johanx64 2y ago
Look for ASUS Alder Lake-N, roughly 100eur incl vat. (that's mobo with N100) You do need to buy SODIMM DDR4 (12-14eur for 8gb), m2 NVME for storage and power supply (which you have to buy for rpi5 also). You end up with a board with way better ports and IO, better audio dac, and significantly faster performance all across the board. Raspberry PIs 5 and such offer poor value and are very overpriced. Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W, Orange Pi Zero 3 and RP Pico still provide good value. (for 3d printers and such)

Can you link a few that are in the Pi5 price range? Pi is ~70 EUR including ~25% VAT. Cheapest N100 I found in 5 minutes of searching was a ACEMAGIC T8 Plus for ~160 EUR. (Currently sold out)

buckle8017 2y ago

> Pi is ~70 EUR including ~25% VAT. Now add a power supply and case.

nxpnsv 2y ago
What if you don't need a box or power supply? And what if you like then gpio pins?
- puzzlingcaptcha 2y ago
  FT232H breakout board is a couple of bucks.
  - thelastparadise 2y ago
    Thank you. No one ever talks about just how easy it is to add GPIO to anything.
  - RachelF 2y ago
    Thanks for that!
Mashimo 2y ago
No, but thank you. I put them into a 3D printer that already has all that. But I need to add a 16 or 32GB SD card. Around 10 EUR, maybe less.
- fransje26 2y ago
  Is it a home-built 3D printer?

dsissitka 2y ago

They're only really comparable if you want an 8 GB Pi 5. Right now I could buy a 4 GB Pi 5 setup (Pi 5, case, power supply) from CanaKit for $82. $97 if I didn't have an SD card to spare. I don't buy mini PCs from random companies. The last N100 I bought was the NucBox G2 for $139: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCDL6VS3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCDL6VS3 If I didn't need the second ethernet port I probably would've grabbed the NucBox G5 for $136: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZRJL7JM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZRJL7JM

Mashimo 2y ago
Cheapest G5 in Europe I could find was 180 EUR, but sold out. And on amazon.de it's 280 EUR.
- dsissitka 2y ago
  Oh yeah. I have no idea what's available there. Sorry! GMKtec sells on AliExpress if you don't mind going that route: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806972422176.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806972422176.html
- Medox 2y ago
  GMKtec Mini PC N97 [1] is 160 EUR on amazon.de (with the 70 EURO voucher that is). Got mine with free shipping to Romania, as the purchase was over 50 EUR. Also, the N97 has better performance than the N100, but the power consumption is higher. For me its a plus as it's more powerful than the usual N100 mini PC's while much smaller and fan noise is quite low (for now at least...). Not really intended for high workloads and 24/7 anyway. More like a backpack PC. [1] https://www.amazon.de/-/en/G5-Computer-Generation-12GB-256GB/dp/B0D1MGL9RC https://www.amazon.de/-/en/G5-Computer-Generation-12GB-256GB...
  - TiredOfLife 2y ago
    For me it shows as €233.82
    - 2y ago

magicalhippo 2y ago

Over at AliExpress there are tons of options, like this[1] or this[2] fun 4x M.2 box. Yes they're about twice the price of a bare Pi5, but they come with metal cases and power supplies, can fit an M.2 NVME without add-ons, and like the first example also includes some RAM and storage. While likely not the best quality RAM and storage, what I got in mine has held up to light use for several months so far without issues, so better than nothing. YMMV. I bought a few 2GB RPi4's when they were $35. At that price point they were great. I don't get the RPi5, especially 4GB+ variants. [1]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007511663921.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007511663921.html [2]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007900081466.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007900081466.html

Mashimo 2y ago
[1] is 150 EUR from EU, not bad. I can see myself give it a go at some point. Still twice the price for my needs.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  Right, it's twice the price but like 10x the capability (unless you need GPIO). That's why I think the lower-end, lower-priced RPi4 made more sense. Fast enough to have decent network speed and run a lot of functional workloads, cheap enough that you could "spam" them.
  - Mashimo 2y ago
    I use it in a 3d printer. I don't need 10x the capabilities. For my usecase it's just 70 EUR more, with the only benefit it might boot and update faster.
- mikae1 2y ago
  And then I have to add 25% VAT because the order is more than 1500 SEK.
  - Mashimo 2y ago

Johanx64 2y ago

Look for ASUS Alder Lake-N, roughly 100eur incl vat. (that's mobo with N100) You do need to buy SODIMM DDR4 (12-14eur for 8gb), m2 NVME for storage and power supply (which you have to buy for rpi5 also). You end up with a board with way better ports and IO, better audio dac, and significantly faster performance all across the board. Raspberry PIs 5 and such offer poor value and are very overpriced. Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W, Orange Pi Zero 3 and RP Pico still provide good value. (for 3d printers and such)