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>Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since before Reagan Republicans have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since

>Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since before Reagan Republicans have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since 1907.

Arainach 2y ago
That would only be a problem if Republicans had a legislative agenda. If all you want is to be able to break government, you need to be able to filibuster, not to be able to overcome one.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  I hope you enjoy the next 40 years, becuae they will be the same as the last 40 years with people like you making the same excuses election after election.
  - Arainach 2y ago
    What "making excuses"? The Republicans have literally stated over and over[1] that their goal is to make government not work and make Democrats look bad - not to make life better for their constituents. Meanwhile the Democrats have to spend every term fixing the things the GOP broke, only for voters to reward them by saying "you didn't fix everything and this dude promises the magical tax fairy will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" and restoring to power the party that breaks everything and raises the deficit. Things are NOT the same with both parties, and discussing the systemic issues both with the electoral college, the Senate - a body so undemocratic that the Supreme Court has literally ruled it unconstitutional for any state to have a legislative body with membership based on land instead of population[2], as well as the fact that it's much easier and faster to tear things down than to build them up - is not "making excuses". It's trying to educate people, despite the fact that a significant chunk of them don't want to understand how things work, they want to act on feelings. [1]: https://www.nationaljournal.com/member/magazine/top-gop-priority-make-obama-a-one-term-president-20101023/ https://www.nationaljournal.com/member/magazine/top-gop-prio... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims
    - brendoelfrendo 2y ago
      Here's the thing: the Dems will never be rewarded for restoring a shitty status-quo that is systematically eroded every few years. They need to embrace radical, popular change. Trump is a populist who understands that he can do all sorts of destructive, vile shit if he just promises the right people the right things.
      - mrguyorama 2y ago
        >They need to embrace radical, popular change. Which is, by design in the American system, not possible without strict control of the presidency, the House, and the Senate, and possibly the Supreme Court. As long as voters continue to not vote for democrats for "not doing enough", the democrats will never be able to "do enough". That's inherent in the system! Republican voters meanwhile understand the concept of "I'm going to put them in charge and see what they end up doing", even if I disagree with the things they want and their methods, they understand democracy very well!
    - llm_trw 2y ago
      >Meanwhile the Democrats have to spend every term fixing the things the GOP broke Like NAFTA. When it comes to making people lives worse the democrats are just as capable as the republicans. It's just that when it comes to helping people. Oh no. Woe is us we can't do anything with the presidency, and a super majority in every branch of government. This happens once every 20 years. But democratic cultists always come out of the wood work to explain why this is actually ~Reagans~ ~Bushs~ ~Bush2s~ Trumps fault.
      - Arainach 2y ago
        In just 4 years of Biden the Democrats got infrastructure spending, the CHIPS act, inflation under control, unemployment down to levels not seen in decades, eliminated billions in student debt, capped insulin prices, allowed Medicare to negotiate lower prices for more drugs, had multiple years of job growth every month, cut child poverty rates in half (from 12% to 6%), passed rules guaranteeing overtime pay for more workers (later overturned by a Republican judge), supported rail unions in getting paid sick days, criminalized sexual harassment in the military, invested in clean drinking water through infrastructure upgrades, prosecuted antitrust, blocked harmful corporate mergers, and more - but please tell me how they do nothing and it's all the same.

>Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since before Reagan Republicans have not had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since 1907.

Arainach 2y ago

That would only be a problem if Republicans had a legislative agenda. If all you want is to be able to break government, you need to be able to filibuster, not to be able to overcome one.

llm_trw 2y ago
I hope you enjoy the next 40 years, becuae they will be the same as the last 40 years with people like you making the same excuses election after election.
- Arainach 2y ago
  What "making excuses"? The Republicans have literally stated over and over[1] that their goal is to make government not work and make Democrats look bad - not to make life better for their constituents. Meanwhile the Democrats have to spend every term fixing the things the GOP broke, only for voters to reward them by saying "you didn't fix everything and this dude promises the magical tax fairy will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" and restoring to power the party that breaks everything and raises the deficit. Things are NOT the same with both parties, and discussing the systemic issues both with the electoral college, the Senate - a body so undemocratic that the Supreme Court has literally ruled it unconstitutional for any state to have a legislative body with membership based on land instead of population[2], as well as the fact that it's much easier and faster to tear things down than to build them up - is not "making excuses". It's trying to educate people, despite the fact that a significant chunk of them don't want to understand how things work, they want to act on feelings. [1]: https://www.nationaljournal.com/member/magazine/top-gop-priority-make-obama-a-one-term-president-20101023/ https://www.nationaljournal.com/member/magazine/top-gop-prio... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims
  - brendoelfrendo 2y ago
    Here's the thing: the Dems will never be rewarded for restoring a shitty status-quo that is systematically eroded every few years. They need to embrace radical, popular change. Trump is a populist who understands that he can do all sorts of destructive, vile shit if he just promises the right people the right things.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      >They need to embrace radical, popular change. Which is, by design in the American system, not possible without strict control of the presidency, the House, and the Senate, and possibly the Supreme Court. As long as voters continue to not vote for democrats for "not doing enough", the democrats will never be able to "do enough". That's inherent in the system! Republican voters meanwhile understand the concept of "I'm going to put them in charge and see what they end up doing", even if I disagree with the things they want and their methods, they understand democracy very well!
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    >Meanwhile the Democrats have to spend every term fixing the things the GOP broke Like NAFTA. When it comes to making people lives worse the democrats are just as capable as the republicans. It's just that when it comes to helping people. Oh no. Woe is us we can't do anything with the presidency, and a super majority in every branch of government. This happens once every 20 years. But democratic cultists always come out of the wood work to explain why this is actually ~Reagans~ ~Bushs~ ~Bush2s~ Trumps fault.
    - Arainach 2y ago
      In just 4 years of Biden the Democrats got infrastructure spending, the CHIPS act, inflation under control, unemployment down to levels not seen in decades, eliminated billions in student debt, capped insulin prices, allowed Medicare to negotiate lower prices for more drugs, had multiple years of job growth every month, cut child poverty rates in half (from 12% to 6%), passed rules guaranteeing overtime pay for more workers (later overturned by a Republican judge), supported rail unions in getting paid sick days, criminalized sexual harassment in the military, invested in clean drinking water through infrastructure upgrades, prosecuted antitrust, blocked harmful corporate mergers, and more - but please tell me how they do nothing and it's all the same.