> Except it doesn't, as we have seen with another nuclear power in the course of its psychotic attempt to invade Ukraine. Because the West has been very carefu

> Except it doesn't, as we have seen with another nuclear power in the course of its psychotic attempt to invade Ukraine. Because the West has been very careful not to push too hard, and has afforded Russia a grinding and expensive advancement on its goals. If NATO forces joined directly, or Ukraine was marching to Moscow with Western aid, I think you'd have a different story (e.g. at least the use of tactical nuclear weapons, which I think would quickly spiral out of control).