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Beer is close. The essay written on the side of a floodland bottle is really a sight to behold in the wankery domain.

• pvg 2y ago
  An argument can be made for beer being above, perhaps even the peak. Unlike coffee or wine, beerwankers took something that didn't really have a high-end and then made it up. They created their own wanktopic! And for this achievement, they get comparatively little of their due social opprobrium - 'homebrew' has come to connote scrappy and hip even though it's transparent wankery of the highest order.
  • jujube3 2y ago
    "homebrew" just means you made it yourself. nothing to do with snobbery.
    • ElevenLathe 2y ago
      I'm not a linguist but I think this bit of jargon leaked into tech from ham radio, which is old enough that "homebrew" (in the sense of building your own radio set from components) referred to a still-earlier time when people actually did commonly brew their own beer at home. "homespun" retains a similar meaning in general usage.
      • jujube3 2y ago
        Is beer part of "tech" now? homebrew has a pretty straightforward meaning... beer you brewed at home. It's actually legally defined that way too
        • ElevenLathe 2y ago
          Maybe I've misunderstood pvg upthread but I assumed "'homebrew' has come to connote scrappy and hip" was about IT/tech because it doesn't have that connotation in the actual context of beer, at least to my knowledge.
          • pvg 2y ago
            No, you had it right - e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club which, as you say, is probably a borrowing from older tech nerd communities.
            • jujube3 2y ago
              The "homebrew computer club" made their own computers. It wasn't about being scrappy or hip, but just a cooler way of saying "homemade"
              • ElevenLathe 2y ago
                So it's about being cool but not about being hip? What distinction are you trying to make?
              • pvg 2y ago
                You should probably check out the denotation of 'connotation'
                • jujube3 2y ago
                  You should probably check out "being a pedantic douche" -- oh wait, you already did.