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While I appreciate the fact that no analogy is perfect, I have to make a relatively pedantic objection here. We're talking about the difference between 2-3 & 5

by doktrin 14y ago

While I appreciate the fact that no analogy is perfect, I have to make a relatively pedantic objection here. We're talking about the difference between 2-3 & 5-6 weeks of vacation, not a radically different approach to governance and civil liberties.

rmc 14y ago
There's also at-will employment in the USA (used by Zynga recently to screw employees out stock options), and lack of employee discrimination (AFAIK it's not illegal in US to fire someone for being gay or trans, while it is in EU). These laws in EU are legal minimum, so they aren't going away. I, as an employee, don't have to worry about a new management team or buy out or poor annual return which results in the company cancelling all paid leave, because the companies in the EU cannot make that sacrifice.
- doktrin 14y ago
  I'm not sure what you are getting at, but it sounds like you are attempting to argue in favor of "your" system over another. Enumerating relatively minor differences between democratic capitalist countries doesn't make your "Soviet Union" analogy any more appropriate. However : >> There's also at-will employment in the USA (used by Zynga recently to screw employees out stock options), and lack of employee discrimination (AFAIK it's not illegal in US to fire someone for being gay or trans, while it is in EU). As seen in Spain, guaranteed / tenured employment is not all sunshine and roses. Even prior to the most recent economic troubles, younger employees were vastly over-represented among those with short term contracts. Likewise in France. For reference, sexual identity and gender orientation are protected (or not) at the state level : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_i...

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While I appreciate the fact that no analogy is perfect, I have to make a relatively pedantic objection here. We're talking about the difference between 2-3 & 5

by doktrin 14y ago

rmc 14y ago
There's also at-will employment in the USA (used by Zynga recently to screw employees out stock options), and lack of employee discrimination (AFAIK it's not illegal in US to fire someone for being gay or trans, while it is in EU). These laws in EU are legal minimum, so they aren't going away. I, as an employee, don't have to worry about a new management team or buy out or poor annual return which results in the company cancelling all paid leave, because the companies in the EU cannot make that sacrifice.
- doktrin 14y ago
  I'm not sure what you are getting at, but it sounds like you are attempting to argue in favor of "your" system over another. Enumerating relatively minor differences between democratic capitalist countries doesn't make your "Soviet Union" analogy any more appropriate. However : >> There's also at-will employment in the USA (used by Zynga recently to screw employees out stock options), and lack of employee discrimination (AFAIK it's not illegal in US to fire someone for being gay or trans, while it is in EU). As seen in Spain, guaranteed / tenured employment is not all sunshine and roses. Even prior to the most recent economic troubles, younger employees were vastly over-represented among those with short term contracts. Likewise in France. For reference, sexual identity and gender orientation are protected (or not) at the state level : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_i...