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> That waters down the felony convictions and what they were related to. I don't think that's how it works. He wasn't charged with election interference or fo

by thunky 2y ago

> That waters down the felony convictions and what they were related to. I don't think that's how it works. He wasn't charged with election interference or for violating campaign laws. But, given your take here, I assume you must feel that Hilary Clinton should have faced potential jail time when she failed to fill out a form and interfered with her opposition's presidential campaign: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-d... And you must also feel that she and Biden should have both faced charges and potential jail time for their mishandling of classified data. But, no charges for them, and 40 felony charges for Trump for mishandling classified documents.

hypeatei 2y ago
You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself. Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid. Hillary I'll give to you because she shoud've faced consequences for the behavior involved in the email scandal. Using bleach bit on hard drives to hide evidence is criminal IMO.
- thunky 2y ago
  > You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself. Exactly how am I misinformed? I never said he was convicted in the classified documents case, I said that he faced 40 felony charges for it and potential jail time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_classified_documents_prosecution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_classified_document... The grand jury indictment brought 40 felony counts against Trump related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents > Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid. I know, and I figured you say this because this is how you're able to contort the facts to justify your world view, but Biden still did mishandle classified documents intentionally and he wasn't charged for it. And just because he gave them back when they asked doesn't reverse that fact. Remember, he wasn't let off the hook because he was innocent. By the way, I have no dog in this fight. I dislike them all equally. I just find it frustrating that people can so easily jump through hoops to "explain" how their team's wrongdoings are ok but refuse to apply the same logic when the call is against the other team. And that normally comes with claims of "misinformation", just like you're accusing me of here.
  - hypeatei 2y ago
    Biden did not intentionally mishandle classified data. The government understands that as part of your job description at that level of government, you take documents with you. It only becomes a problem when you don't work with them to return those after you've been notified of the issue. I'm not a fan of sane washing Trump's behavior and trying to draw parallels between him and the Dems when they're just not equal. It reeks of "but muh both sides" contrarinism style argument. > able to contort the facts to justify your world view This is pure nonsense.
    - thunky 2y ago
      > Biden did not intentionally mishandle classified data Pretty easy to fact check yourself if you cared to: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/national-security-experts-criticize-bidens-handling-classified-documen-rcna138689 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/national... > This is pure nonsense. You've got blinders on. Even Jon Stewart (who hates Trump) is willing to stick out his neck and call a spade a spade on this topic.
      - hypeatei 2y ago
        There was a special counsel dedicated to Biden's document investigation and the person leading it was a Trump-appointed lawyer who said there was a clear difference between the two cases[0]. You should note that Biden was not charged by that counsel as there wasn't enough evidence that he willfully retained the documents. > Hur’s report says the differences between the two cases are “clear.” Unlike Biden — who cooperated with investigators, agreed to searches of his homes and sat for a voluntary interview — the allegations in Trump’s case present “serious aggravating facts,” Hur wrote. > For instance, prosecutors say, after the Justice Department issued a subpoena for the records in May 2022, Trump asked his own lawyers if he could defy the request and said words to the effect of, “I don’t want anybody looking through my boxes.” > “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?” one of his lawyers described him as saying, according to the indictment. I do not care about what Jon Stewart says either, lol. 0: https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-special-counsel-b5589ea8f066ede51c8138665f108f7a https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-...

by thunky 2y ago

hypeatei 2y ago

You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself. Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid. Hillary I'll give to you because she shoud've faced consequences for the behavior involved in the email scandal. Using bleach bit on hard drives to hide evidence is criminal IMO.

thunky 2y ago
> You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself. Exactly how am I misinformed? I never said he was convicted in the classified documents case, I said that he faced 40 felony charges for it and potential jail time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_classified_documents_prosecution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_classified_document... The grand jury indictment brought 40 felony counts against Trump related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents > Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid. I know, and I figured you say this because this is how you're able to contort the facts to justify your world view, but Biden still did mishandle classified documents intentionally and he wasn't charged for it. And just because he gave them back when they asked doesn't reverse that fact. Remember, he wasn't let off the hook because he was innocent. By the way, I have no dog in this fight. I dislike them all equally. I just find it frustrating that people can so easily jump through hoops to "explain" how their team's wrongdoings are ok but refuse to apply the same logic when the call is against the other team. And that normally comes with claims of "misinformation", just like you're accusing me of here.
- hypeatei 2y ago
  Biden did not intentionally mishandle classified data. The government understands that as part of your job description at that level of government, you take documents with you. It only becomes a problem when you don't work with them to return those after you've been notified of the issue. I'm not a fan of sane washing Trump's behavior and trying to draw parallels between him and the Dems when they're just not equal. It reeks of "but muh both sides" contrarinism style argument. > able to contort the facts to justify your world view This is pure nonsense.
  - thunky 2y ago
    > Biden did not intentionally mishandle classified data Pretty easy to fact check yourself if you cared to: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/national-security-experts-criticize-bidens-handling-classified-documen-rcna138689 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/national... > This is pure nonsense. You've got blinders on. Even Jon Stewart (who hates Trump) is willing to stick out his neck and call a spade a spade on this topic.
    - hypeatei 2y ago
      There was a special counsel dedicated to Biden's document investigation and the person leading it was a Trump-appointed lawyer who said there was a clear difference between the two cases[0]. You should note that Biden was not charged by that counsel as there wasn't enough evidence that he willfully retained the documents. > Hur’s report says the differences between the two cases are “clear.” Unlike Biden — who cooperated with investigators, agreed to searches of his homes and sat for a voluntary interview — the allegations in Trump’s case present “serious aggravating facts,” Hur wrote. > For instance, prosecutors say, after the Justice Department issued a subpoena for the records in May 2022, Trump asked his own lawyers if he could defy the request and said words to the effect of, “I don’t want anybody looking through my boxes.” > “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?” one of his lawyers described him as saying, according to the indictment. I do not care about what Jon Stewart says either, lol. 0: https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-special-counsel-b5589ea8f066ede51c8138665f108f7a https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-...