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How much of that is the opinion of the corporate masters who fund the Linux Foundation? Why Rust and not Ada for example? Rust is heavily promoted by web devel

by tkahf 2y ago

How much of that is the opinion of the corporate masters who fund the Linux Foundation? Why Rust and not Ada for example? Rust is heavily promoted by web developers who call the shots these days because they bring in the advertising money. I find it hard to believe that Rust is the end of all other languages, especially given its ugly syntax.

dralley 2y ago
It turns out that Linus has repeatedly shared his personal opinion on these matters, so you can judge for yourself whether he sounds "forced by corporate masters", or whether that's conspiratorial FUD that exists only in your own mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=6m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=6m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_8UOPFpqE&t=8m30s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_8UOPFpqE&t=8m30s He's even given briefly opined that Rust looks much better than the "disaster" of Ada: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2247741/linux-at-25-linus-torvalds-on-the-evolution-and-future-of-linux-2.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2247741/linux-at-25-linus-...
sunshowers 2y ago
Rust has so much momentum behind it. It's become extremely popular among leading-edge systems and tool developers, for being just the right mix of approachable and geared towards sustainable correctness. For example, the Jujutsu VCS is written in Rust. Of course it is — it was started in 2020 or so, and no other choice would make sense for software which needs to be fast while not compromising on correctness. And Jujutsu is not written by web developers. It is written by systems developers. I've also been in private conversations to start a couple of new systems projects to fulfill some currently-unmet needs. Again, of course they would be in Rust; there was never any doubt or serious debate. This by no means indicates that Rust is the end-all of languages. I hope Rust gets superseded at some point! But if you're making a decision today, right now, about systems projects you want to ship and deliver value with, then Rust it is.
dralley 2y ago
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=17m28s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=17m28s

by tkahf 2y ago

dralley 2y ago

It turns out that Linus has repeatedly shared his personal opinion on these matters, so you can judge for yourself whether he sounds "forced by corporate masters", or whether that's conspiratorial FUD that exists only in your own mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=6m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=6m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_8UOPFpqE&t=8m30s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_8UOPFpqE&t=8m30s He's even given briefly opined that Rust looks much better than the "disaster" of Ada: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2247741/linux-at-25-linus-torvalds-on-the-evolution-and-future-of-linux-2.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2247741/linux-at-25-linus-...

sunshowers 2y ago

Rust has so much momentum behind it. It's become extremely popular among leading-edge systems and tool developers, for being just the right mix of approachable and geared towards sustainable correctness. For example, the Jujutsu VCS is written in Rust. Of course it is — it was started in 2020 or so, and no other choice would make sense for software which needs to be fast while not compromising on correctness. And Jujutsu is not written by web developers. It is written by systems developers. I've also been in private conversations to start a couple of new systems projects to fulfill some currently-unmet needs. Again, of course they would be in Rust; there was never any doubt or serious debate. This by no means indicates that Rust is the end-all of languages. I hope Rust gets superseded at some point! But if you're making a decision today, right now, about systems projects you want to ship and deliver value with, then Rust it is.

dralley 2y ago

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=17m28s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvuEYtkOH88&t=17m28s