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> managers not really being incentivised to do the right thing It's more likely that managers are just incompetent. Not being able to distinguish between infra
by yobbo 2y ago
> managers not really being incentivised to do the right thing
It's more likely that managers are just incompetent. Not being able to distinguish between infrastructure and "decoration" means all their decisions are at best superficially motivated.
The punishment we have for this is unemployability and bankruptcy. It will happen by itself if you let it.
A framework for "punishing bad software" sounds to me to be hiding the ambition to "protect bad managers from consequences of their decisions".
- RHSeeger 2y ago> The punishment we have for this is unemployability and bankruptcy. It will happen by itself if you let it. In my career, I have never seen a manager see consequences for making the decision that values "money now" vs "avoiding things going wrong later". I do not believe that it will happen by itself.
- yobbo 2y agoWell yes, agree this is how it looks now. But my perspective is that there has to be layers of mechanisms protecting them, rather than the natural order. (These mechanisms are tricky to pin-point but seem to be on the themes of mutual loyalty, avoiding embarrassment, keeping face, and so on.) Imposing some formal framework is more likely to insulate managers even further while making software developers accept legal responsibility beyond their pay.
- tacticus 2y ago> The punishment we have for this is unemployability and bankruptcy. It will happen by itself if you let it. yeah, nah. "No one ever got fired for buying IBM" after decades of incompetence the multinational contracting firms are still going fine. IBM still runs fine and they're focus is now even more in the insulting side of the business.
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