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If you want your Apple products to be "properly recycled" then take them to Apple when you EOL them. Relying upon a shiny EPEAT logo/cert to make your decision

by greedo 14y ago

If you want your Apple products to be "properly recycled" then take them to Apple when you EOL them. Relying upon a shiny EPEAT logo/cert to make your decision easier is ignoring that there are other ways to be environmentally friendly.

jlgreco 14y ago
I am unknowlegble on this topic; what do we know about how they recycle their equipment? Recycle is not a binary option, there are different amounts that something can be, which is also different from how much it is.
- div 14y ago
  Exactly. Recycling could be marketing speak for "sending to a landfill in China".
  - greedo 14y ago
    And this could be true of lots of "recyclers" in the US and EU.
Spooky23 14y ago
Why should I change my business process to make Apple more money? I'm not hauling thousands of devices to Apple -- particularly if I can save money by using any of a half dozen competitors. I have contracts with a half dozen recycling vendors who take my junk and dispose of them in a manner deemed acceptable by us. Some of them even pay us to take certain products. A "shiny EPEAT certification" means that I can call any of the thousands of recycling vendors in the United States and get my gear hauled off and disposed of in a sustainable and ethical manner, and at a reasonable price. No African children are smelting wires from equipment originating from my company. Memory from my Dell devices is recovered and resold. Batteries from my Thinkpads are dissembled and recycled.
- greedo 14y ago
  So you perform audits of the recycling firms that you use? I get the impression from the tone of your reply that even if Apple were to continue achieving EPEAT that you still wouldn't buy them.
- greedo 14y ago
  Oh, and following up on this because of Apple's change of heart in paying EPEAT for approval. Are you going to change your purchasing policy now?
wwweston 14y ago
So we should rely on a glowing Apple logo to make our decisions instead?
- greedo 14y ago
  No, but relying upon outdated recycling standards instead of evaluating devices and doing your own research is sloppy.

by greedo 14y ago

jlgreco 14y ago

I am unknowlegble on this topic; what do we know about how they recycle their equipment? Recycle is not a binary option, there are different amounts that something can be, which is also different from how much it is.

div 14y ago
Exactly. Recycling could be marketing speak for "sending to a landfill in China".
- greedo 14y ago
  And this could be true of lots of "recyclers" in the US and EU.

Spooky23 14y ago

Why should I change my business process to make Apple more money? I'm not hauling thousands of devices to Apple -- particularly if I can save money by using any of a half dozen competitors. I have contracts with a half dozen recycling vendors who take my junk and dispose of them in a manner deemed acceptable by us. Some of them even pay us to take certain products. A "shiny EPEAT certification" means that I can call any of the thousands of recycling vendors in the United States and get my gear hauled off and disposed of in a sustainable and ethical manner, and at a reasonable price. No African children are smelting wires from equipment originating from my company. Memory from my Dell devices is recovered and resold. Batteries from my Thinkpads are dissembled and recycled.

greedo 14y ago
So you perform audits of the recycling firms that you use? I get the impression from the tone of your reply that even if Apple were to continue achieving EPEAT that you still wouldn't buy them.
greedo 14y ago
Oh, and following up on this because of Apple's change of heart in paying EPEAT for approval. Are you going to change your purchasing policy now?

wwweston 14y ago

So we should rely on a glowing Apple logo to make our decisions instead?

greedo 14y ago
No, but relying upon outdated recycling standards instead of evaluating devices and doing your own research is sloppy.